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Rigged Matchmaking / Huge Wins & Loss Streaks / Forced 50% WL Ratio

Naedra··14 votes·2,588 views

Right, this has been getting on my nerves for quite some time now... but it's become so painfully obvious that I won't be holding back on this one. It's the same trend again.. and again.. and again.. and again.. normal, or ranked, no matter the ELO, tested and tested and tested. Whose match history also looks like this?

WWWWLLLLWWWLLLLLLWWWWLLLL.

RITO will tell you that it's all part of a creative system designed to balance teams and enhance your gameplay. Yeah, well... I call bull. This is what a forced 50/50% Win/Loss scenario looks like, no doubt about it. Come on now, it's obvious to see what they're trying to do here. RITO will argue, 'nah dude you just don't understand how it all works, you see: the more you win the higher your MMR, the harder your match-ups... eventually you'll start losing again once you compete against players of an equal or higher skill level'.

Yeah, if only. There's a huge flaw in your system, RITO. It's one thing to meet your match and lose admirably, but it's a completely different thing to force players into a completely UNWINNABLE situation to balance out their God damn W/L ratio. And i'm dead serious about this. Each and every time you'll get matched with players of 'your skill' for about 5-6 games in a row, everyone seems to know what they're doing (on both teams), you try hard, play well, maybe win 6 in a row if you're good, and then... by God, it's like you've entered the titanic on its' way down to join Satan's surprise-sex midget fiesta. Suddenly everything turns, your teammates become worse than the one's you played with two hundred games ago. The way they move, the way they play... you can just see that they've been pulled out of a RITO's garbage can. You'll get feeders, trolls, AFK'ers, game after game after game. But here's the catch... your opponents will stay at a decent skill level (ever so conveniently), they'll be well coordinated, good movement and all the rest of it. Have no doubt about it you'll lose the next 5-6 games. In fact it feels like a miracle if you manage to win even one of these so called 'fair match-ups'. And this will happen again and again and again, after winning a handful of games... no matter the ELO, no matter the time, no matter the day.

So please, fix this garbage. It's so obvious to see and it's absolutely ruining this otherwise great game.

31 Comments

DoktorKaiser11 votes

I love how idiots downvote when this is 100% completely true. You get 5 games where you can literally afk and still win, then 5 games where you play with diamonds who feed 15 kills in first few minutes. Pathetic from RIOT, I just refuse to believe that nobody can make better alghoritms and still keep a balanced matchmaking so that they are forced to do this extremely obvious rigged w/l streaks...

Naedra3 votes

Well said. Finally someone who's actually played the game.

Senpai Negro5 votes

Yes it is painfully obvious that they do force the 50% WR on you. I don't feel like going into detail but if I get stuck in Silver 1 elo for a day somethings up

Snowball4u5 votes

ok rito i have had 48% winrate for so long why tf is ur system broken i'm supposed to have 50% wtf???

please fix

Naedra2 votes

It's actually at about 55% at the moment, oh so divine defender of RITO. Try again. No tears this time though.

Snowball4u2 votes

I mean i was talking about myself...

but why tf r u complaining about being "forced to a 50% winrate if u have 55%??????????? the fuck kind of logic is that

Naedra4 votes

Sorry dude maybe it would be easier if you didn't type like a turd sandwich. Whether you have 50%, 52%, 55%, that's besides the point. Even at challenger level players barely break through this 55-60% threshold. The whole point is that there's a system in place designed to stop you from pushing beyond these percentages. And it doesn't do it in the way it professes to do, aka by matching you with and against better and better players.

Its All Skillzz4 votes

its pretty true. i have 700 ranked games as ezreal this season and ive remained a 51-52% win rate for the entire time that ive played ranked. ofc i climbed from like silver 4 or something and im plat 5 atm with my games, but yea my match history will easily look like 10x win into 9x loss. and its not my fault im losing my team is legit just uncarriable sacks of shit that dont belong in my elo. and most the time its not cause they are bad, it because they are filled into a role they cant play. ive seen most amazing adc stats get filled into jungle an just feed horribly or provide 0 pressure. samething for tops being filled as adcs or support mains filled into carry roles. its pretty dumb how autofill works sometimes.

King of Mongoose1 votes

it's probably because you play ezreal that you have such a low winrate

Its All Skillzz1 votes

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it's probably because you play ezreal that you have such a low winrate

not really, my team is just uncarriable after i go on a huge win streak.

King of Mongoose1 votes

because you can't carry with ezreal, pick a different champ lol

Its All Skillzz1 votes

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because you can't carry with ezreal, pick a different champ lol

you cant carry these teammates i get with any champion. legit i had 0-3-0 nid jungler 0-4-0 fiora top and a 0-3-2 adc an 1-3-1 moakai support in my previous game. so nidalee has plled off 0 ganks managed to die 3 times to enemy gragas when trying to invade him. fiora lost to jayce and the oly lane with 3 of our 4 kills was me mid i also had a 30 cs lead over ahri. didnt matter cant carry people who do nothing but feed. atleast if i feed in my games either by gank or getting outplayed i manage to stay even in cs an hold out for some team fights to carry. but these guys get put behind they do nothing but feed more.

King of Mongoose1 votes

pick a different adc and u can carry

RenownedWheat423 votes

You people just can't get over the fact that you're losing. You're not owed a fantastic team 100% of the time. You're not owed a win. If you can't pull a win out, then you didn't deserve it. It's that simple! No conspiracy involved.

I'm sitting at an 75% winrate for norms in my last 20 games. 65% if you go to my last recorded on op.gg. 80% winrate on my main (Alistar), 86% winrate on my second (Maokai).

Naedra5 votes

Nothing to do with expecting a fantastic team 100% of the time.. and there's certainly nothing wrong with losing either. What I expect is consistency amongst the level of play of my teammates and my opponents. That's what RITO claims to be doing after all. But that's not what's happening here. It doesn't take a genius to see that the level of your teammates' play plummets completely after you've won a handful of games. It's like a light switch.

Mig891 votes

If what you say is true you should just be mad that Rito gave you the free wins before the loss streak. If what you claim is true then youre either getting carried or you are being held back. Im sitting on a 60% winrate on my main in ranked solo Q this season and i think a 53% overall in ranked. Ive never once dealth with what youre saying. I dont go off on winstreak that go upwards of 5 games but i never have these losing streaks either. I havent spent a ton on this game. I just dont believe what youre saying is actually happening. I started winning a lot when i narrowed down my champ pool and focused on macro play.

Naedra6 votes

Well it works both ways too. As someone below already stated, sometimes you're given games where you could literally AFK and still win all 5 matches (per say). Then you'll get roflstomped over the next few games (no matter how hard you play) as the system attempts to restore itself.

Mig891 votes

All you would have to do is be the deciding facotr to change a loss into a win and the system is actually doing you favors. I think a lot of people dont really know how to play league as in really play the game. They get carried but still outperform stat wise. I had a game yesterday where i was something like 3/8/2 but I was there to take every tower, every dragon, and every baron as the jungler and I know i contributed mroe than the anni who got an S. You can force out wins in a low of low ELO games by just playing correctly. We were behind so i tried to ignore fights. I had a sweeper so my ward coverage wasnt great and i got caught a few times but I made sure objectives fell quickly.

RenownedWheat421 votes

If what you're saying had any nerit then my 65% win rate wouldn't be manageable. You just can't stand you're losing. Grow up.

Snowball4u1 votes

idk if this guy is drunk or retarded but look at what he commented on my reply that says the opposite of what he was complaining about in the post LOL

Naedra3 votes

Hm, it says you're unranked. Which would make sense, 65% is completely unsustainable, even for a challenger player. Start playing you'll see what I mean.

RenownedWheat421 votes

75% in my last 20, 65% in the last month. How is this unsustainable? Doesn't matter if I'm ranked or not. You're throwing out conditions that are completely irrelevant.

If a 50% winrate was FORCED then there would be no method of maintaining a winrate of over 60% as I have been.

Its All Skillzz2 votes

{quoted}

75% in my last 20, 65% in the last month. How is this unsustainable? Doesn't matter if I'm ranked or not. You're throwing out conditions that are completely irrelevant.

If a 50% winrate was FORCED then there would be no method of maintaining a winrate of over 60% as I have been.

normals is a dif story, you get alot more afks/feeders/people who dont care an just wanna move onto next game than you do in ranked. while you do get a bit of feeders and rage quiters in ranked i can only imagine how many dont give a shit cause its normals. i myself would be one of these people building adc soraka and having fun throwing bananas instead of trying to win.

captcha or lose1 votes

I have a 60% win rate on my main and 55% win rate overall and I completely agree with this. Happens particularly when you're near the top of a division. Everytime I'm around g2-21 I start getting terrible teams while facing plats. I lose even though im above 2.3 KDA with 10+ kills. people who are like 1/12, 4/10 those kinda numbers, just gets hard to deal with. I was on a 6 game lose spree followed by 6 game win streak, now 5 game lose streak again. I was at 65% win rate overall and they're trying to make it closer to 50%

Naedra3 votes

I couldn't care less about the downvotes, it just means that i've upset a handful of RITO's fanboys. They'll never admit to RITO doing something wrong, God forbid. In fact it's their very inability to see or understand the truth that allows RITO to get away with shit like this in the first place. Like this dude going on about 48%.. hasn't even begun to understand what's being said here. Like a broken record.

ThePikol3 votes

I experience exactly the same. I had 8 game losestreak for the 5th or 6th time alrady, always right after a huge winstreak. I was winning, got in promotion to Gold like 3-4 times, then massive losestreak comes and got demoted to Silver 3. Now I win again, again in Silver 1, expect to go to promos to fail again. Some may tell that Silver is where I belong, maybe yes, but wouldn't I be in all Silver division rather than hard stuck in Silver 1 instead? I made few discussion and comments about the same thing. It's not your enemies that gets better, it's your teammates that got much worse. Someone once told me that if system would force 50& WL noone would climb. True. It doesn't force 50% winratio. It let's you climb but prevent from doing so too fast

Naedra2 votes

It's remarkable isn't it. If you really were climbing consistently it would look something like this:

WWWLLWWWLWLWLWW

But it's never like that is it? Just 6 easy wins followed by 6 hopeless losses.

Mig891 votes

Lets ignore the fact that maybe you've peaked. If youre winning 50% it means youre at the elo you belong at. Try improving if you want to climb further.

TP4MyBungHolio2 votes

{quoted}

Right, this has been getting on my nerves for quite some time now... but it's become so painfully obvious that I won't be holding back on this one. It's the same trend again.. and again.. and again.. and again.. normal, or ranked, no matter the ELO, tested and tested and tested. Whose match history also looks like this?

WWWWLLLLWWWLLLLLLWWWWLLLL.

RITO will tell you that it's all part of a creative system designed to balance teams and enhance your gameplay. Yeah, well... I call bull. This is what a forced 50/50% Win/Loss scenario looks like, no doubt about it. Come on now, it's obvious to see what they're trying to do here. RITO will argue, 'nah dude you just don't understand how it all works, you see: the more you win the higher your MMR, the harder your match-ups... eventually you'll start losing again once you compete against players of an equal or higher skill level'.

Yeah, if only. There's a huge flaw in your system, RITO. It's one thing to meet your match and lose admirably, but it's a completely different thing to force players into a completely UNWINNABLE situation to balance out their God damn W/L ratio. And i'm dead serious about this. Each and every time you'll get matched with players of 'your skill' for about 5-6 games in a row, everyone seems to know what they're doing (on both teams), you try hard, play well, maybe win 6 in a row if you're good, and then... by God, it's like you've entered the titanic on its' way down to join Satan's surprise-sex midget fiesta. Suddenly everything turns, your teammates become worse than the one's you played with two hundred games ago. The way they move, the way they play... you can just see that they've been pulled out of a RITO's garbage can. You'll get feeders, trolls, AFK'ers, game after game after game. But here's the catch... your opponents will stay at a decent skill level (ever so conveniently), they'll be well coordinated, good movement and all the rest of it. Have no doubt about it you'll lose the next 5-6 games. In fact it feels like a miracle if you manage to win even one of these so called 'fair match-ups'. And this will happen again and again and again, after winning a handful of games... no matter the ELO, no matter the time, no matter the day.

So please, fix this garbage. It's so obvious to see and it's absolutely ruining this otherwise great game.

Riot won't fix it, because they are convinced that keeping everyone at 50% is the best way to run this game. I've said over and over a "better way" is to match you always with people equal to your talent to make every game close. You would learn and get better and enjoy the games more than EASY wins and streaks and HORRID losses and streaks. This is ELO HELL THAT ABSOLUTELY EXISTS. Riot knows it too.

Rigging games is the wrong way to go, but you can't convince Riot.

King of Mongoose1 votes

nah you are just terrible

bloodybadger11 votes

in my experience it is the second game after a win streak that is the deciding factor. If i go WWWWWL then my next game kinda determines if i go on a loss streak. if i win that one then usually it becomes WWWWWLWLLWLWW or something. if i lose it goes kinda how you said until i start to play well again.

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