vi and dem jungle

foinhas·3/9/2015, 12:30:51 PM·3 votes·599 views

of all current fotm junglers, Vi is by far the most problematic; her kit is just overloaded woth everithinG:

cc, shield, armor reduction, aa resests, mobility, %health damage, aoe damage, as boost,... all in a way that synergies with themselves.

so, what, in my opionion should be done about Vi?

passive should only work on champions, so she strugles a little more in jungle

Q is fine

W: remove armor reduction

E: it shouldn't reset aa. 2 aa resets on a 1second cd? it synergies too much with W

R: range reduced to 600/550

this changes will demand Vi to actualy itemize accordingly, instead of just rushing BC and Botr and pubstomp all game

What do you think about these changes? What would you change about Vi? What's her place in LoL?

14 Comments

DarthSpectrum3/9/2015, 1:36:48 PM3 votes

We all know that Vi is overpowered compared to the rest of the junglers, but unfortunately, a champion needs to be overpowered to survive in the s5 jungle.

It is funny how you mention Vi but not J4; these two have almost identical kits. I will not deny that in a side by side comparison, Vi is one of the better champions. However, I disagree with you on nerfing her. Doing so will only further limit the jg pool to Lee Sin, Fiddles, J4, and Rek Sai. The other junglers either die in the jungle (ie. Eve.) or does not come with enough damage to clear. (ie. WW)

Nerf the jungle first, then we can talk about Vi nerfs.

Eedat3/9/2015, 1:31:07 PM2 votes

Vi's only really popular again because of how ridiculous the season 5 jungle is. With the massive wave of buffs coming for other junglers, I don't think she will be too much of a problem

Bisaknosp3/9/2015, 1:36:59 PM2 votes

shut up

'so, what, in my opionion should be done about Vi?'

gutting her wont fix anything

Karlyr3/9/2015, 3:29:05 PM2 votes

Vi kit is "overloaded". Let me laugh. Let's talk about Kalista's kit. She has : -Vision (W) -Mobility (Passive) -Execute (E) -CC (E slow, R) -Damage amplification (Passive) -Poke (Q + E killing a creep) -Slow Immunity (Passive)

The only thing she lacks is a Spell Sheild

Vi kit : -Mobility (Q) -Damage amplification (W) -CC (Q-R) -AA reset (E) (OH WOW SUCH POWER) -Sheild (Passive)

If you want to use the "overloaded" meme, use it correctly.

RogueWill3/9/2015, 3:13:00 PM1 votes

Then it would be impossibe for her to clear the jungle as she has no inbuilt sustain. W would be useless as it damage will be reduced late game by armor (is mostly a skill for late game anyway) and the whole point of the E is that she can actually give some use to her W. If you want to move her power you have to give some active to W to compensate. Vi kit seems overloaded to you but is actually rather limited, she only have one way to combo you and one way to go all in and that's about it. The itemization you are talking (BC and Bork) is made so she will stomp mid game, late game she become more or less useless. The only reason Vi has become popular is because the other more reliable junglers have become unreliable. I you make those changes vi will never see play (competitive or otherwise) ever again since she is not really viable top and wouldn't be able to clear the jungle.