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dextheindex··1 votes·536 views

Is Bard in a healthy condition right now? I think that if his ult could heal or do damage it would increase his solo potential. It seems like he is the only champion that cannot 1v1 evenly.

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Lugg1 votes

Bard is very healthy right now. He takes some practice to get down, but he does INSANE damage as a support late game and has amazing utility.

cuddlykitten41 votes

Bard 1v1s like a boss. Just have to know how to play him correctly.

Beldair1 votes

Would love to see a good 1v1 bard then because when i was sej support, we had a bard top against a riven and he fed like crazy so that Riven became ridiculous.

cuddlykitten41 votes

That's more because Riven's kit is excellent for shutting down a Bard's kit. Her lack of mana lets her sustain into being able to stay at the tower's throat so Bard can't roam. She's also designed to spam spells where Bard is designed to set things up. Bard has infinitely stacking true damage. Correctly collecting the relics combined with setting the Q up correctly leads to a devastating bard. You're comparing a late game toon to the mid game toon that counters him. You also have to consider that just the Bard most likely hasn't played top Bard as much as Riven has played top Riven. These things make a difference. To assume something does or does not work based on one game is foolish. In most things you should never assume an average until ten games (or whatever the situation calls for) have been accomplished. This makes each one worth 10%. 15% is the number that makes a noticeable difference so until they are worth less than 15% per game then one match that goes exceptionally good or bad as a fluke can falsely manipulate the data. You didn't see evidence that Bard is bad solo. You saw a Bard having a bad game against a Riven. They are extremely different things.

Beldair1 votes

I was just stating that i wouldn't mind seeing a good bard solo lane since the only time i saw one it failed. I'm not saying Bard can't be a solo laner, just saying i haven't seen a good one yet.

Abyssphere2 votes

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Would love to see a good 1v1 bard then because when i was sej support, we had a bard top against a riven and he fed like crazy so that Riven became ridiculous.

Every top laner is capable of feeding Riven. That's her whole point and it says nothing about the champion she's facing. But obviously Bard is crap at 1v1ing actual duelists, he's just comparatively good by support standards. You couldn't put a single support in the top lane and expect them not to die to Riven, with the only possible exception being Lulu, the solo lane support.

Beldair1 votes

True

Beldair1 votes

His ult is already a large zhonya's besides he wasn't really meant to be a solo laner...he was designed to be a roaming support.

Adding damage or a heal to the ult would be ridiculous, especially since he can lay down 3 healing shrines.

At Least I Ward1 votes

supports like Bard 1v1 very efficiently trough kiting

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