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make mords ult imunte to qqs

Fennec90··4 votes·1,433 views

they REALY need to make mords ult unable to be instantly removed by qqs, it ruins the point of his ult and means just one item anyone can get hard counters him.

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floo3 votes

Yes good idea. Let's make Morde's R a literal death sentence for anybody who cant wait out the timer like Elise or someone with Zhonyas.

boricCentaur11 votes

ummmmmmmmmmmmm kill him, cc him like there is already counter play qqs is just dumb to have as a counter. Like the stats he gets don't make up not having a ult in a 1v1 and he also TAKES HIMSELF out too meaning his team loses a player also for a short time.

floo1 votes

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ummmmmmmmmmmmm kill him, cc him like there is already counter play qqs is just dumb to have as a counter. Like the stats he gets don't make up not having a ult in a 1v1 and he also TAKES HIMSELF out too meaning his team loses a player also for a short time.

Nobody in league who isn't fed so hard he can't lose the game anymore with sustained damage could deal with Morde in his ult. That includes most adcs and mages. Tanks can maybe outsustain him, depends on itemization. Burst only wins if it's enough to kill him. Otherwise you are dead. Nobody has enough cc to last 7s, the area is really limited and his passive helps him just run people down. He taking himself out isn't nearly as harmful to his team than say the enemy dps. You do realize he has 2 damage abilities and a passive that is active while in a fight. That's his only ways of dealing damage. Since he doesn't have an ult that deals damage, all of his power budget goes into these 3 things. He doesn't need an ult in a 1v1 scenario where he already gets bonus stats AND deals heavy damage distributed to 3 close combat abilities.

boricCentaur11 votes

wtf are you talking are you trying to be wrong? vayne,yi,tris,lucain, kindred,kass,kai and more can 1v1`mord. He is easier to kite then darius. Like here is list of champion who can cc him to live lux,mal,ashe,morg, you know nvm to sum this up JUST LEARN TO KITE.

Like I'm sorry you can't kite a slow moving champion. I have played mord and vs mord and can say he is not hard to kite.

floo1 votes

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wtf are you talking are you trying to be wrong? vayne,yi,tris,lucain, kindred,kass,kai and more can 1v1`mord. He is easier to kite then darius. Like here is list of champion who can cc him to live lux,mal,ashe,morg, you know nvm to sum this up JUST LEARN TO KITE.

Like I'm sorry you can't kite a slow moving champion. I have played mord and vs mord and can say he is not hard to kite.

Yea all those champs are good at kiting. If you can kite away from him the Morde player is bad. His passive, Rylais and his E should make it impossible for him to not stay close to his enemies. That's why I said most champs. Kass can be an exception if he plays his ults well. Kindred and probably Yi too just have their defensive tools, stealth could be useful if he doesn't hit you beforehand. However he will still be on top and most likely win against most champs who don't counter him by nature. Let Qss be a viable counter for squishies to not be sentenced to death by a point and click, especially if they aren't one of those who have the tools to evade him.

floo1 votes

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Yea all those champs are good at kiting. If you can kite away from him the Morde player is bad. His passive, Rylais and his E should make it impossible for him to not stay close to his enemies. That's why I said most champs. Kass can be an exception if he plays his ults well. Kindred and probably Yi too just have their defensive tools, stealth could be useful if he doesn't hit you beforehand. However he will still be on top and most likely win against most champs who don't counter him by nature. Let Qss be a viable counter for squishies to not be sentenced to death by a point and click, especially if they aren't one of those who have the tools to evade him. And the way Riot addressed this issue in their champion preview, it's gonna stay this way, thankfully.

Fennec901 votes

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Nobody in league who isn't fed so hard he can't lose the game anymore with sustained damage could deal with Morde in his ult. That includes most adcs and mages. Tanks can maybe outsustain him, depends on itemization. Burst only wins if it's enough to kill him. Otherwise you are dead. Nobody has enough cc to last 7s, the area is really limited and his passive helps him just run people down. He taking himself out isn't nearly as harmful to his team than say the enemy dps. You do realize he has 2 damage abilities and a passive that is active while in a fight. That's his only ways of dealing damage. Since he doesn't have an ult that deals damage, all of his power budget goes into these 3 things. He doesn't need an ult in a 1v1 scenario where he already gets bonus stats AND deals heavy damage distributed to 3 close combat abilities.

but he only gets the bonus from his ult while the enemy is dead, and he can only use it on one enemy at a time, haveing qss remove his ult means if the whole enemy team gets it he cant reliably use it, makeing his ability useless. at least give him a dam chance to get the buff if people can remove the arena

floo1 votes

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but he only gets the bonus from his ult while the enemy is dead, and he can only use it on one enemy at a time, haveing qss remove his ult means if the whole enemy team gets it he cant reliably use it, makeing his ability useless. at least give him a dam chance to get the buff if people can remove the arena

He gets the bonus stats as soon as he clicks R on someone and is thereby stronger in his realm already. If you buy a QSS because you can't already avoid him, you delay your powerspikes by 1.3k gold. If you'd say the AD can use Mercurial properly you'd still be 5.2k down for one out of 5 enemy R's. Sure, you get MR but depends on the teams if you can actually make use of that beyond Morde or not. Not everyone is gonna buy a QSS and even if, in lategame you will only have 1 or max. 2 people with it if your toplaner is a bruiser.

Death by Glamour2 votes

Ok we remove his magic pen passive aswell then.

thefatlazycat1 votes

keep it as is, it's an important piece of the signature juggernaut counterplay and removing it would be a massive balance problem.

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