Riot creates troll/support role

Nep0zeljan·Jan 19, 2017·1 votes·768 views

Ok, just quick post, I just hope somebody will read this. I am nep0zeljan, currently g3, and I am so pissed off rigth now, since in last 10 games, I am getting so troll supports, players who never play support role, and ruind my game, another after another. That "new system" is the worst thing which happened in this game. Every game you got troll and ppl who play malza, veigar, lee, darius etc. as supp. IS that what you wanted Riot? Who cares about waiting times in lobby, if you are gonna ruin my entire game? Let ppl play roles which they want, if that mean 15 min. in lobby, let it be. Figure out some new reward for players whos playing supp, boost their ip, idk. This must stop as soon as possible, cause there are too many toxic behavior because of this...

13 Comments

PaquayJan 19, 20173 votes

You know, the Internet can be awesome when you can get information on demand. I pulled up the last 10 games you had from when you posted this and it appears you are very good at grossly exaggerating your problem with trolls. Of the last 10 games only 1 had a support troll. Every other game has had a traditional support character building as you would expect them to (sightstones, face of mountain, etc.).

the last 10 games your support looked like this:

Leona 1/3/17 Sona 1/4/15 Troll - Malphite or Malzahar Alistar 2/8/9 Nami 0/6/13 Braum 0/5/6 Karma 0/7/14 Thresh 7/9/14 Karma 1/8/15 Leona 0/7/10

So please elaborate on how these are trolls? I get that they don't normally play the support role, but some of them did very well and I think you are hyperboling.

EndlessSorcererJan 19, 20171 votes

Malzahar support isn't actually a troll pick.

Article with basic explanation

PaquayJan 19, 20171 votes

No, but if you look at the build it is. In this game Malzahar or Malaphite could be used as support which is why I didn't list one specifically. They both built for a normal game and no support items. No sightstones, or anything else. That's why I mentioned it.

HethaleanJan 19, 20172 votes

How is Malzahar a troll support? It's a legit support pick. A ton of early damage for trades and at lvl 6 you should pretty much be able to kill one of them easy.

Veigar can definitely work as a support as well. Just get Relic shield on him, so you can still farm with Q (i'm sure you don't know what Relic shield but it will share some amt of CS so he can get CS and you do too), and his stun wall is fabulous, and he scales by just hitting enemies too so he scales up into a threatening APC support with damage as well.

I main support and right now I primarily pick Brand/Zyra/Malzahar because ADCs are awful right now and trusting them to get to a point where they can or will carry is a bad gamble.

khorneyJan 19, 20171 votes

i invented malz supp been doing it since they reworked him, i explain this to people but they dont listen, e to poke w for disenegae and engage(do not under estimate the power of the body block) and q is just what eves, and ult is instant stun and more champs do nothign to you becuase of the fact you have a free banshees veil. Also i take greenfathers touch to make my e do mroe damage since there is bushes.

HethaleanJan 19, 20171 votes

That is an excellent tip on the Greenfather's. I liked Bandits as well since the Voidlings give you the free 3g when they AA someone. I'll have to try out Greenfather's! Also, yeah, Miss Fortune players are the first to really see the power at level 6 when you ult... and then they ult... and beautifully horrible things happen to the poor target.

khorneyJan 19, 20171 votes

ohh yah ive thought this through, and i only w if a gank or they decide to dive on ur adc. i cant deal with zyra that much on using the supp becuase u only block one thing and she does 3 things. depending on your adc i will 99% get zekes except if i have ez adc or corki

FreeVolibearJan 19, 20171 votes

This really makes me want to try Malz support!

FreeVolibearJan 19, 20171 votes

Veigar doesn't even need to farm his q on minions to get it up since his earlier rework. He's excellent poke/zoning potential and he gets points to his q for hitting champs with it and with his w (and e as well I think). It's not as fast to get stacks like farming a lane, but it's not bad scaling potential for a support role. I typically build spell thiefs edge and build towards eye of the watchers then lost chapter and so on to a hybrid mid lane/support build. I just try to remember that I am a support and not a carry and do my job to ward and restrict enemy movement while zoning and harassing to get my team fed. It's a viable and sometimes very cancerous (to the other team) role and I rarely get complaints after the first few minutes in lane.

khorneyJan 19, 20171 votes

malz is a good supp not sure what your talkign about there same as vieger.

LEEROY KLEDKINSJan 19, 20171 votes

As a support main who does off meta alot.

Most champions can support but with some champions you will have to do a silly build like AP nasus.

Examples of off meta supports (though to win lane i do take some liberties of pushing hard). Wukong, AP Nasus, Both shred armour and good burst and both have good aoe ults in fights also if your wukong has a black cleaver a Q and Ult will instantly destroy the whole team's armour with no trouble.

Kled, for me and the other psycho kled mains only, good leashing, his tower diving is bullshit good to do with his adc or other allies, if he loses skaarl during cc he becomes cleansed, good high risk high reward (just keep an eye on his courage meter it does fill up fast.

Riven, CC? what is that?, mobility peeling out the butt, cc ftw and good burst.

Volibear, Sion, Maokai.

Juggernaut teemo.