Pantheon counter AP aatrox

PressRggm8·Oct 5, 2015·1 votes·812 views

Played ap aatrox vs pantheon. Did well with his manaless poke and post lvl 6 nuke. Thoughts?

8 Comments

SH AzykanOct 6, 20152 votes

Okay only watched to 7:30 and a couple things I would like to point out/ask

Why start with amp tome over a dorans shield/blade in the matchup

you reveal you are ap right away so he could start itemizing against it if he knew what he was doing on his first back (early hex drinker and you never win that lane)
both shield and blade will provide you with some form of sustain and give a better chance of surviving an all in from panth (at level 2 you almost died)
Shield specifically heavily cuts down panth's poke letting you farm better rather than being zoned off of creeps.
Panth is infamous as a flask starter and you had no way to match his sustain+poke without threat of being all in'd and/or shoving the wave

You fought panth right at level 2, when panth is going to be so much better than you at that point (especially with an amp start which only helps your E). Why go in at that point? What was going through your head? Genuinely curious not hating on you for it.

You tp'd to a minion instead of tower...shame >:(

When you did kill Panth and decided to push his tower, you didn't ward. if Vi had showed you were an easy kill. (she showed mid moments later, but before that you had no idea if she was on her way up. She very easily could have)

Also a little curious what runes/masteries you ran.

PressRggm8Oct 7, 20151 votes

Hey, Yeah I have a little gameplay I have to work on, that was the first time I played vs Panth top as Aatrox and didn't think too much of him because of his squishy-ness.

Also full ap runes BABY! --- Only reason why is because Aatrox is basically an all in champ.... to be efficient with him, you have to jump into the enemy team and hit your ult on as many of them as u can ( or at least back line) There is no room for sustain, because of his passive. So the best you can do is go pure ap,, jump in deal a ton of dmg to back line and let passive hit, thank hourglass... and if your team doesn't kill them by then, than something is wrong. ( in between the passive and hourlgass and dying u can get a few e's in which really hurt later on in game, especially the carries)

IN almost all the games as AP Aatrox I have the most dmg delt.

RalanrOct 7, 20151 votes

Did you think Pantheon was Squishy or Aatrox?

PressRggm8Oct 7, 20151 votes

well both of us are squishy, but my poke is a longer skill shot so I was going to poke down till he was low enough to all in... except didn't know about that flash and hp pot thingy.

SH AzykanOct 7, 20151 votes

Pre-6 you lack that nuke though, I know afterwards you can all in well after a few E pokes and some items.

A Dorans item start is purely for lane sustain, your E costs health and you were getting poked down as well. The only way you had to heal it back off though was 1 health pot or shoving lane for your W. Neither of which are ideal situations for AP Aatrox because you do lack a lot of all in power early. You got hard zoned in lane at points, simply because panth was too big of a threat and you had no way to safe farm other than using your E.

All AP as in AP in every spot? Why not H.Pen reds, Armor yellows, Scaling CDR Blues and AP quints? Get that CDR since you cant itemize for it as well and you do rely on having your E/Ult up as much as possible P: (With a Nashors tooth and 5% mastery CDR you will hit the cap)

PressRggm8Oct 7, 20151 votes

Well yeah CDR is a must and if enemy team is building MR than so is Pen... but all items with AP.. nothing tanky is my motto