Syndra Buff

VonTreece·Mar 19, 2015·6 votes·1,635 views

Now I know Syndra's not the most popular champ but I decided to try her out.

Played a few games with her and I honestly love her playstyle and abilities and I could seriously see myself maining her.

What's keeping me from doing so? Her insane mana depletion. Even building mana regen and sustain doesn't help much.

I understand some champs you have to be a bit more conservative and situational with your mana uses, but this is just a bit excessive.

You're so focused on maintaining your mana that you can't really sit back and just enjoy the game.

I'm not asking for a complete rework or anything too in-depth. I just think simply lowering the cost of her abilities even if just by a very small amount would help immensely.

8 Comments

DreadPirateChrisMar 19, 20154 votes

Mmmm, if Riot ever decides to straight up buff her, that would be exactly where I'd want the buff to be. However, I wouldn't want them to 'rebalance' her with lower mana costs -and- lower damage or range or worse cooldowns. A large portion of proper mana management with her is learning how to CS with auto-attacks. She has great wave clear as long as her mana lasts which makes it really tempting to farm with abilities (and for reasons of range and harass and enemy wave clear sometimes you have to do that). However, habitual farming with abilities will absolutely wreck her mana bar, so farm with autos as much as possible.

manbearswineMar 19, 20153 votes

I honestly think the issue here is that mana regen was nerfed globally for no apparent reason.

DivewingMar 19, 20153 votes

I found your problem: Q damage gutted

AbyssphereMar 19, 20153 votes

I really think it'd be wise to reduce mana costs on either Q or W, yes. For Q it is just bizarre to have a set-up ability with such a massive cost considering she can't do much of anything without using it multiple times, so I'd like a change to 40/45/50/55/60 or something. On the other hand, W's cost scaling up to 100 is really ridiculous. It's not even that impressive an ability. Maybe 60/65/70/75/80 for that?

kcStrangerMar 19, 20152 votes

I've actually posted on exactly this elsewhere: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/0wsIxHf1-syndras-mana-costs

I've found that while Athene's is usually enough to offset my mana issues if I'm careful with my mana (and I do think her mana costs should be in a place that doesn't just let you spam without items or blue buff), Morello simply isn't. So if I ever skip Athene's, I go Tear into Morello (only 200 gold more in total). By the numbers, she's a bit underpowered at the moment, and since I don't think we're getting any Q damage back, getting a bit of a discount on her mana costs (specifically the Q and W) would be very welcome. She's always had mana problems, but previously it was a necessary weakness of offset the large Q damage.

She's not the only mage who has these problems. Lux and Ziggs are a couple other examples.

IcyPepperMar 19, 20151 votes

Her autoattacks deal more damage than her Q at level I:

Base damage, that is. Unless you go full AP/AP pen runes, I guess...

stuartk11Mar 21, 20151 votes

Mana regeneration nerfs did really hurt a lot of champions, and Syndra was also nerfed WITH these nerfs already hurting her pretty badly. Honestly though, I would consider reverting the Q damage nerfs and increasing her base mana pool to around 360. Maybe her Q should have less harsh scaling mana cost (perhaps make it 40/45/50/55/60 mana). Other than that, she doesn't have too major an issue with mana. Mostly just her reliance of her Q, which can become expensive if you put points into it (which is the optimal way to play by far).