Yorick ghouls interaction with morde skills(specifically W)

porouscloud··30 votes·1,456 views

So after playing Yorick into a morde, I realized he was getting full healing off my ghouls. That means when I set up my combo with 4 ghouls, he gets 200-760+1.2 AP healing by pressing w twice just off ghouls alone. I am okay with him receiving the minion reduced healing off ghouls, but healing equivalent to hitting 4(5 if I attack) champions with W is quite frankly, stupid. Given that he also gets full shielding off ghouls, it is basically impossible to win trades between the half health heal, and the full shielding he receives.

I've looked, and as far as I can tell, this is the only healing that is reduced on only minions.

I would also suggest taking a look at other summons such as with zyra plants and malz voidlings.

I would ask that yorick ghouls count as minions for the purposes of morde's kit, although there may be other champs which have some other unintended interactions.

14 Comments

Breaku9 votes

Sorry, Riot doesn't fix morde bugs.

SquashCannon17 votes

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Sorry, Riot doesn't fix morde bugs.

It's not a bug, pets are non-minions.

Malicious Metal7 votes

So?

This is intentional. Zyra plants malz Voidlings Tibbers

Morde's w has only reduced effects against minions, this is an intended strength. As a Juggernaut he's supposed to fight amongst hordes of enemies.

How this thread got any upvotes is beyond me.

Hexs Fortune1 votes

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So?

This is intentional. Zyra plants malz Voidlings Tibbers

Morde's w has only reduced effects against minions, this is an intended strength. As a Juggernaut he's supposed to fight amongst hordes of enemies.

How this thread got any upvotes is beyond me.

They should standardize the heal to only reach full effectiveness vs champions. For clarity and consistency.

Malicious Metal3 votes

No they shouldn't.

Give me a reason why they should do that. Vlad's heal works the same way.

Also, Jungle Morde is a thing.

Malicious Metal4 votes

Also, the max heal at level NINE is 380+1.2 Ap

But nice exaggeration nonetheless

Skins Project1 votes

lol..

I can feel the distain from over here xD.

DeathBurst3 votes

Your count is wrong, W only heals from 2 targets max. He won't get health from your 4 ghouls.

And yes, it's not a good match-up for Yorick, but it's not supposed to be one. Mordekaiser is the ultimate melee bully, since he WANTS people to come close so he can get his 3 Q's off. And Yorick isn't even a great duelist himself, so there is no reason Yorick should have an easy time. The ghouls giving full healing make it even worse, but even without that, Yorick should/would still lose to Morde. You can't win trades, so don't try to trade.

YambrinZ2 votes

And? Not every champion is going to have a favorable matchup against every other champion. The good news though is that you can ban morde yourself when new ban system comes ;)

Bard R Friday2 votes

It can only heal off of 2 units max.

nice table1 votes

was always wondering why morde countered yorick now i know

Mordepool1 votes

Also I'd like to point out that his W has a long cooldown so if you want to engage hang out in the brush wait for him to use it and then all in.

Barkhoof1 votes

May I suggest rushing item 3123 ? Your ghouls apply the healing debuff, unless I'm mistaken. The last time I played Yorick into Morde (which, admittedly, was February), EC switched the matchup from "impossible" to "make the right choices".

Dylominater1 votes

In this patch they made some units not class as minions

elise spiderlings heimerdinger turrets malzahar voidlings yorick mist walkers zyra plants shaco boxes.

This is most likely something riot knows about and are fixing as I type.

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