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Pantheons scaling

Schlagobert··1 votes·1,267 views

I like the new pantheon but playing him feels a little TOO much like the old one. I only got to play him once but it's the same when i play against him. He falls off. Like his scaling is really bad. I was 3 kills ahead of malphite, the enemy top laner. Once he bought some armor he could easily beat me in a 1v1. I didn't miss anything, had conqueror, had ignite, I had black cleaver. No chance. That was at about min 20. Same thing when i played against pantheon as kayle. The pantheons i played against weren't bad. I just had to wait and avoid early trades. At min 15 the game was over for them.

At the same time his early game isn't the auto win it used to be. Stomping your lane is harder but he still needs that to stay relevant. So most of the time he is still the useless champ he used to be and i hoped the rework would fix that. His E is strong in certain situations but once it's on cd you have to avoid the enemy as good as possible. (Maybe it takes too much of his power budget?)

I don't know any exact numbers. But these are my thoughts on the pantheon rework.

9 Comments

preternatural2 votes

Malphite bought armor and beat an AD caster? noooo, must be a bug.

Schlagobert1 votes

If it's that easy i wonder how riven has such a high win rate when you just have to buy armor.

preternatural1 votes

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If it's that easy i wonder how riven has such a high win rate when you just have to buy armor.

was riven against a malphite in all her matches that dictate her win rate? i'm not saying riven is balanced by all means but it's best to know when one is playing into another champions win condition.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Okay, but you ignored the most important part.

Did you buy armor penetration against Malphite, who now gets 90% bonus armor while his shield is up?

Schlagobert1 votes

Conqueror + ignite and what i didn't mention black cleaver.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

What did Malphite have?

Let's say he only had Sunfire. That's probably not true, but we'll still say it.

At level 9, he'd have 122 armor. With his passive up, that's 232 against your first spell. You wouldn't have any stacks in Cleaver or Conqueror yet, so at the start of the fight they don't matter.

If you're only playing like old Pantheon, then you aren't going to get to 5 stacks on neither Conqueror nor Cleaver during your first rotation. And including his shield, you're probably not going to do more than a third of his health even with a full rotation from 3 kills up if you aren't building Dominik's instead of Black Cleaver.

Tahminatrix 1 votes

Did you build item 3071 ?

Did you roam instead of trying to fight the tank?

xDogMeatx1 votes

he can buy BORK and use alot more runes like klepto at the cost of his usual domination runes. he can run those runes but its less efficent on new pantheon. his new E is a armor shred with cleaver.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

I like the new pantheon but playing him feels a little TOO much like the old one.

That's kind of the point of rework, since Aatrox's rework sparked a high hate controversy of being changed into a completely different champion. Panth looks like one of the healthiest rework so far similar to Warwick, but strength-wise I can't say much yet til I get to play him on live patch.

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