How do I deal with Caitlyn?

Zhuge Qiang·Aug 27, 2016·2 votes·486 views

Caitlyn is so damn oppressive early on, too oppressive compared to pre-rework where she still had counterplay. Nowadays, she just completely walls you off with 1 spell that can be cast up to 5 times and it's so hard to farm with that much passive pressure. It's even worse when she gets a sustain support which makes trading with her out of the question. She has way too much in her kit: long range, damage that's easy to land, soft cc, and decent mobility. All of this makes her such a self-sufficient marksman and that's without considering her support.

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OneMustFallAug 27, 20161 votes

You basically just wait for ganks and farm if she's playing really passive and out of your reach. Or get a support that can hook/pull her or her support in. A lot of times you can get fed off her support who gets caught out of position. While she is a safe ADC, her damage is mediocre compared to other ADCs and if she gets caught out, she's finished.

Zhuge QiangAug 27, 20161 votes

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You basically just wait for ganks and farm if she's playing really passive and out of your reach. Or get a support that can hook/pull her or her support in. A lot of times you can get fed off her support who gets caught out of position. While she is a safe ADC, her damage is mediocre compared to other ADCs and if she gets caught out, she's finished.

I know, but the problem is that she can avoid ganks really well by treating the jungler as if they were a laner. She can wall off the river or E her way out of harm. Her damage isn't mediocre because she is able to land autoattacks and Headshots with impunity. Again, this isn't factoring her support either.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 27, 20161 votes

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I know, but the problem is that she can avoid ganks really well by treating the jungler as if they were a laner. She can wall off the river or E her way out of harm. Her damage isn't mediocre because she is able to land autoattacks and Headshots with impunity. Again, this isn't factoring her support either.

ok well as far as Caitlyn is concerned. she can only have so many traps out at once so either she is zoning you in lane or she is "walling" off the river from the jungler to gank. she cant do both. in lane vs Caitlyn you want to engage her when her Q and E are down so she cant use her net to slow you and get away and use passive headshot off it. She goes oom if she is spamming her Q alot. stand behind the wave so if she does Q it does reduced damage to the last target it hits. she is designed around being a lane bully and pushing using her traps to zone and her range to poke. having champs that have high dps and pushes back is strong vs her like Jinx , Sivir was a good counter pick but i dont know after the nerfs. she has great wave clear, and her shield blocked caits ult and you get free mana when you spellshield and step on Caitlyn traps. Ashe is a even match up with similar range but a hard cc ult that you can turn on her. Lucian is a good lane bully but he lacks some range but with his passive and his dash he can easily win trades early vs cait due to his dps and his dash is able to dodge her abilities like Q and E so after she uses and you dash it you can trade cuz you have passive proc for extra dps and you can be in range to follow up with a full combo. Ezreal would be similar to Lucian vs Caitlyn . if you play Vayne laning is a real nightmare vs Caitlyn and dont expect to win lane , if you dont die and are some what even in cs when laning phase is over its actually a push instead of a loss cuz we all know the nightmare a late game Vayne can be and you should never lose to a Caitlyn if both are full build. cait is strong early and falls hard mid game but late game her damage on full build is strong just like most adcs. she is completely useless if she is behind and has no gold/items that is why a jungler who can provide early gank pressure is important cause 90% of Caitlyn shove lane nonstop and easily ganked then. unlike Ashe and Sivir which provides utility to team with their kits cait has none so if behind she is useless. where as Ashe can still use ult, scout vision, aoe slow with volley ect.

Zhuge QiangAug 28, 20161 votes

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ok well as far as is concerned. she can only have so many traps out at once so either she is zoning you in lane or she is "walling" off the river from the jungler to gank. she cant do both. in lane vs you want to engage her when her Q and E are down so she cant use her net to slow you and get away and use passive headshot off it. She goes oom if she is spamming her Q alot. stand behind the wave so if she does Q it does reduced damage to the last target it hits. she is designed around being a lane bully and pushing using her traps to zone and her range to poke. having champs that have high dps and pushes back is strong vs her like , was a good counter pick but i dont know after the nerfs. she has great wave clear, and her shield blocked caits ult and you get free mana when you spellshield and step on traps. is a even match up with similar range but a hard cc ult that you can turn on her. is a good lane bully but he lacks some range but with his passive and his dash he can easily win trades early vs cait due to his dps and his dash is able to dodge her abilities like Q and E so after she uses and you dash it you can trade cuz you have passive proc for extra dps and you can be in range to follow up with a full combo. would be similar to vs . if you play laning is a real nightmare vs and dont expect to win lane , if you dont die and are some what even in cs when laning phase is over its actually a push instead of a loss cuz we all know the nightmare a late game can be and you should never lose to a if both are full build. cait is strong early and falls hard mid game but late game her damage on full build is strong just like most adcs. she is completely useless if she is behind and has no gold/items that is why a jungler who can provide early gank pressure is important cause 90% of shove lane nonstop and easily ganked then. unlike and which provides utility to team with their kits cait has none so if behind she is useless. where as can still use ult, scout vision, aoe slow with volley ect.

I feel like Caitlyn needs a nerf to her W because that's the spell bothering me the most. She can place so many at once and decide the pace of the lane at level 1 while other champions don't even have that kind of pressure at that stage.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 28, 20161 votes

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I feel like Caitlyn needs a nerf to her W because that's the spell bothering me the most. She can place so many at once and decide the pace of the lane at level 1 while other champions don't even have that kind of pressure at that stage.

i understand your point but do you under stand that is what makes her a lane bully that is what she is designed to be and do it to suffocate the other adc in lane? so to take that away would lose her identity as a lane bully who suffocates the lane.

most people have issues with strong early game champs and dont understand the ebbs n flow of the game and play around power spikes and power dips. people just say champ x vs champ y is better cuz of blank. but as of now the top 5 adcs by win rate are in this order

Jinx MissFortune KogMaw Twitch Ashe