I'm losing games due to people not knowing how to PROPERLY execute the inting Sion strat. They start feeding from the VERY START of lane phase, go 0/10 by 15 minutes, and make the enemy Yas or Irelia basically invincible. Our whole team then gets deleted by said Yas or Irelia.
A simple fix would be to nerf the amount of damage that Sion's postdeath spawn can do against structures.
Xavanic1 votesbut tower destruction has always kinda been the main use for his passive, since he sure as hell aint gonna catch 95% of leagues champs unless their completely immobile with no built in CC
Mathgodpi1 votesSome have suggested putting a cooldown on his passive, similar to Anivia's egg. Maybe that's the solution.
Need Gold 4 Tent1 votesJust have to deal with it until it calms down when people realize they're doing it wrong. Shouldn't get rid of a valid tactic just because some people don't understand it. In time, someone else will come up with another meta that beats it, and that will become the new rage. Let metas beat themselves, don't just get rid of them for no reason. Sion's already in a decent spot anyway, plenty of counterplay while not being weak.
I mean, you got things like Kai Sa/Irelia/Graves that deserve far more attention.
Mathgodpi1 votesI'm sorry but I can't consider a tactic that involves dying over and over on purpose and has no counter a valid tactic.
Int Sion is no less cheesy than the funnel strats that were recently used (remember Karthus/Nunu?) and it's maybe even more cheesy because it involves dying on purpose. Riot did away with that other cheese and they'll do away with this one too if they don't want it to hamper the quality of their game. IMO.
Are there other issues that require attention too? Yes, on that we agree.
Full Brain1 votesI'm sorry but I can't consider a tactic that involves dying over and over on purpose and has no counter a valid tactic.
Int Sion is no less cheesy than the funnel strats that were recently used (remember Karthus/Nunu?) and it's maybe even more cheesy because it involves dying on purpose. Riot did away with that other cheese and they'll do away with this one too if they don't want it to hamper the quality of their game. IMO.
Are there other issues that require attention too? Yes, on that we agree.
No you are right there is no counter to this. 100% winrate inting Sion strat at worlds right now. Unstoppable.
In reality it is easily countered both with champion selection with true damage based champions and cc chaining champions and with macro play because the top laner being dead leaves a 5v4 on the map and allows your top laner to roam and group up with the jungler to easily gank other lanes and take multiple objectives. The people who are diamond+ doing this would be that just playing normal split pushing tank Sion since you are basically trying to accomplish the same thing in similar ways for the majority of the game. If you have actually watched the higher ranked players doing it you would see that it is actually just split pushing Sion but in late game they don't try to get away and just keep attacking towers when people start to collapse on them.
It isn't running it up mid punching the tower once and dying twenty times in a row to take it that is just feeding and should be reported.
Full Brain1 votesJust report those people and get them banned. That is just feeding not a legitimate strategy for winning. It isn't hard to tell the difference.
You don't even need to do demolish tank to use this as a situational strategy: you never have.
https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2886218411/40886913?tab=overview
We had no business winning that game against a full build Kaisa and EZ in ARAM with no ADC on our team. When it got to end game I just started ulting past the enemy team and attacking their objectives while my teammates defended ours. If we lose one team fight we lose that game instantly but flawlessly executing a counterable strategy somehow needs to be nerfed.
I watched RNG win group by taking 4 towers, an inhib, and nexus with 4 people, no minion wave, no tanks to take the turret shots, and no baron buff off of a single team fight win before respawns could come through. What really needs to be nerfed is zombie tank Sion's turret damage though.
Mathgodpi1 votes[{quoted}](name=Full Brain,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EkelH4KN,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-10-17T02:23:06.456+0000) What really needs to be nerfed is zombie tank Sion's turret damage though.
Ok, let's just agree on this ^
I believe that Riot is not paying much, if any, attention to reports of Sion players inting. There is reason to believe that trolls are taking advantage of this to ruin games and get away with it.
