Unranked level 30 accounts posting

TheHypeGoku··2 votes·1,717 views

About game length, weak turrets, perceived metas, stats that don't tell the whole story, etc are irritating. I don't want to hear what Bronze players think about ranked. Bronze players feed Akali like 15 kills per game and somehow lose to that poor excuse for an assassin (and that's saying something because assassins aren't even a thing anymore).

I want to hear what high elo players are dealing with(because they have a better understanding of game mechanics, meta, champion picks, etc. more than Bronze players. The only people that disagree with this are, surprise, bronze players...).

Hiding behind unranked accounts is basically just saying Hey I'm Bronze and I think Aatrox is broken because I have no CC and I tried to 1v1 him and lost.

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EDIT:

It's funny seeing this post get downvoted, further proving my point that a majority of players on this forum are hiding behind unranked level 30 accounts. LOL*[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]*

32 Comments

Mecha MaIphite14 votes

Does it really matter what their rank is if they can make a good argument?

TheHypeGoku1 votes

True. But I can assure you that many times they may be making a good argument but haven't actually played the right matchup to really realize the problem. They instead look at one thing but miss another thing. They make the same mistakes that Riot does. Think their way is the solution and not the other way.

SEKAI1 votes

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True. But I can assure you that many times they may be making a good argument but haven't actually played the right matchup to really realize the problem. They instead look at one thing but miss another thing. They make the same mistakes that Riot does. Think their way is the solution and not the other way.

So you condemn the entire group based on "many times"? I'd thought the validity of one's argument is based on, what else, the validity of he argument itself, and not on the basis of whatever "tend to" their demographic is thought/assumed/accused of right?

ME UNGA ME SMASH2 votes

GAREN IS OP AND TURRETS DO TOO MUCH DAAAAAAAAAAMAGE-

Is not a good argument.

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

No, it isn't.

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MavenSong1 votes

You're right it isnt. Use judgement to gauge whether an argument is good, dont simply throw it away based on Rank. Rank often can indication of a person's understanding of the game but it doesnt always mean lower ranks dont have a similair understanding. Use logic.

vOmvbrawfU1 votes

Water is wet.

G4LLOWSC4L1BR4TR1 votes

Nobody's saying it is. If that's all a bronze player is saying, feel free to discount it. That said, if they make a lucid argument and bring up valid points, their rank is no excuse to dismiss it. If, for example, their grasp of some of the ideas of the game is good but their mechanics are too bad to get them out of bronze, their knowledge of those ideas they do have a grasp on is still valid.

ME UNGA ME SMASH1 votes

I forgot to say this is the usual bronze/unranked player complaints I see, mb

Silencega7 votes

some people are bronze because they simply cant perform. this doesnt mean they dont know anything about the game. just because i don't have the reflexes to dodge some spells and execute some combos doesn't mean i'm not in the know regarding mechanics within the game. you can be shit and still know how the game works

BluePolarizer1 votes

aren't there multiple 200 ms ping, 10 APM d1/master/challenger players?

Silencega2 votes

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aren't there multiple 200 ms ping, 10 APM d1/master/challenger players?

there are also multiple people in bronze who can riven fast and shy combo. what does your statement mean?

BluePolarizer1 votes

being able to combo with Riven means that they know the bare basic mechanics of playing Riven.

It doesn't mean they have anywhere near the game knowledge that BoxBox does or know what mechanical trick to use in what situation.

Silencega1 votes

missing the point of my comment entirely. thanks man

Scruberz3 votes

Many people like to post on unranked or unleveled accounts so they can make their points without people accusing them of being bad, unknowledge-able or dismiss their point because they are "bronze lulz".

When called out on it they usually claim to be plat or gold so that they can have their point be taken more seriously. They usually don't claim diamond because they feel thats a little too unbelievable.

The simple fact is they are actually in bronze and this is the only way people will listen. And even then it's rare.

TheHypeGoku1 votes

Experience matters.

dominusx2 votes

this account is ex plat even tho i ended season d4 and it's unranked now even tho i'm d3 atm. Look at the quality of the posts and you can tell who is a proper player and who is wrong. Per say if you talk to me about Vayne i'll tell you no to everything i just want the champion gutted to NOT EXIST in the game. maybe a plat player has a good idea of fixing her issues. I mean ppl crying about Yasuo are mostly bronze but some lower elo players have proper suggestions imo.

MagicFlyingLlama2 votes

Or people are unranked because of the MMR reset, and have no interest in fighting their way up the meaningless clown ladder of ranked.

Rank proves absolutely nothing aside from how much time you spend (waste?) playing the game, your luck, persistence and ability to exploit overtuned stuff to climb. How often do you see a support main bragging about how they went from silver to diamond in one season?

How often do you see people in bronze/silver who are mechanically amazing, but are so awful at teamwork and map awareness that they cant win a game no matter how hard they spam E. Or the reverse, people in plat who have no idea what a "ward" is (hi, top), or repeatedly flash into 1v5 fights (or some lesser but equally bizarre mechanical/strategic error).

People (usually high-ranked elitists and bronze V riven OTPs) have a weird idea that "skill" can be quantified as a single value, and usually forget that it is a mix of teamwork, knowledge, reflexes and timing, strategy and logic, and math.

I have a friend who is bronze V and entirely deserves it, as he plays troll builds, refuses to buy boots, plays drunk, plays alistar ADC, ect. But he is also an absolute thresh god, capable of making some of the most hilarious and crazy plays i have ever seen (when he is not drunk, joking around or playing anything but thresh).

TheHypeGoku1 votes

Yeah because climbing is luck based. And the reasn you don't see some1 climb from Bronze to Diamond in one season is because that's a HUGE leap. I've went from Bronze to Silv to Gold to Plat over each season. One at a time. You're way too upset at this game lmao... Chill bruh

MagicFlyingLlama2 votes

You completely missed the point of the post (probably because you read none of it), and i have no idea where you decided i am upset about anything. You seem like the sort of person who just comes here to cry about how great you are and how everyone else is wrong, then supplies no substance.

TheHypeGoku1 votes

meaningless clown ladder

---Plenty of people do just fine climbing up once they've adapted to the game and gotten better. Everyone has the same tools to climb, it's about how well you can do use those tools to climb.

Rank proves absolutely nothing aside from how much time you spend (waste?) playing the game, your luck, persistence and ability to exploit overtuned stuff

---It proves a lot. It shows you a general skill level of how people are able to play individually and within a team. Does this person play consistently well in games that are winnable to make up for games that are not winnable so they have an above 50% win rate and can climb? Wasting time playing the game? True that, it is a waste of time. Just as any other game is. Luck is hardly a variable because everyone is using the same system and odds are generally even across everyone's matchmaking experience. So you may get an afk 1 out of 5 games but you can assume a player on the other side has the same ratio. Ability to exploit overtuned stuff? I reached Plat my first time around maining Lulu support. Then second time around maining Jax/Malph. Are they overtuned? No. Do people use overtuned champions? Yes. But if you see some1 playing an overtuned champion in Silver it hardly proves anything. They aren't good enough to "exploit" a fotm champion to climb out of shit elo.

How often do you see a support main bragging about how they went from silver to diamond in one season?

-Very rare for this to happen because the skill level between Silver to Diamond is such a huge hurdle. You would have to be an abnormally quick learner to jump that much in one season. People generally climb up one league at a time, like I did. And just a side note. I got Gold my first season maining support taric/janna then Lulu/Taric/Janna to Plat the following season. There's your brag.

How often do you see people in bronze/silver who are mechanically amazing, but are so awful at teamwork and map awareness that they cant win a game no matter how hard they spam E. Or the reverse, people in plat who have no idea what a "ward" is (hi, top), or repeatedly flash into 1v5 fights (or some lesser but equally bizarre mechanical/strategic error).

Both teams are capable of producing players to make those mistakes. But it's funny hearing some1 talk about being awful at teamwork when you show the exact attitude of someone who is a shitty teammate?? And yeah people play different styles and win different ways. Maybe they found success and have won a majority of games by playing super risky and aggressive. Or maybe they're still stuck in their previous game where they were fed and were able to do it. It happens. Comps change every game and sometimes people can't adapt. But complaining about your team and saying your success is only measured by how your teammates do is very narrow minded and frankly I'm upset that you come to this thread with such a bronze mindset lol..

People (usually high-ranked elitists and bronze V riven OTPs) have a weird idea that "skill" can be quantified as a single value, and usually forget that it is a mix of teamwork, knowledge, reflexes and timing, strategy and logic, and math.

Further proving that I'm right. That mix of "teamwork, knowledge, reflexes and timing, strategy and logic, and math" is precisely what I'm speaking of. How do you prove that? By playing ranked and determining where you stand in comparison to other players. I love how you say Ranked means nothing and then try and argue for a mix of valuable skills meaning more than anything else? And you say usually high-ranked elitists think skill is determined by one variable like some1 is going to get to Diamond by not having all the aforementioned skills LOL

I have a friend who is bronze V and entirely deserves it, as he plays troll builds, refuses to buy boots, plays drunk, plays alistar ADC, ect. But he is also an absolute thresh god, capable of making some of the most hilarious and crazy plays i have ever seen (when he is not drunk, joking around or playing anything but thresh).

This really isn't relative.

So how's that? Your shitty argument collapses. /end

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

By all means keep making passive-aggressive shitposts to provide free entertainment. Some day, you will realize that no matter how arrogant and self-absorbed you are, the truth is that nobody else cares.

I was curious enough to look you up.. You seem to be Silver I with a number of games and winrate that suggest you either bought your account, got boosted last season, or are just trolling. Explains why you seem tilted.

TheHypeGoku1 votes

Season 2 Bronze. Season 3 Silver. Season 4 Gold. Season 5 Platinum. Season 6 Platinum. Season 7 - I will be Platinum.

I'm not tilted. Not trolling. Just practicing Jax lol

And look at that. I responded to all your points and then you went ahead and chose the "supplies no substance" side of the argument LOLOL

GenghisEmo1 votes

i think it's because it's NA that people can't climb fast enough and it is S6 preS7 which we recently had to suffer through.

S6 I saw Diamond players fall to Gold and stay gold, yet they still dominate once Riot's mathcmaking finally gives them "Not Supp". Some still climbed into Platinum. But after seeing them go from playing obsessively to no longer playing at all, made me pretty much lose faith in Ranked. Now i only play with players that I know i will lose with and that is the only time i play Ranked, as a duo with really bad players, cause then if i win it was deserved, if i lose, it was also deserved. Otherwise, i'd go insane XD.

S6 was that season where Bronze players climbed into Gold thanks to "Queue Boosting" and now that things changed with Solo/Duo being back, they go deeper and deeper in bronze unless they grind out games and actually abuse the system the old fashion way by not getting supp and picking a FOTM champ that is easy or somewhat easy to play.

Finally saw one of my Gold friends finally hit gold right off the bat and stay in Gold as a Supp main, mostly spamming Supps. I was happy for the guy. Now he rarely logs on, seems S6 took its toll and forced him away to Overwatch and Singleplayer only games.

S6 forced so many old-school players away. Even the hardcore D1/Barely stayed in Challenger and lost it after a week "i only play League" types that were at one point the shit. But then everything changed once S6 arrived and they get hardstuck in Plat 3-1 and give up. They come back, stomp a game or two only to never show themselves again for weeks. Then, they comeback in Pre-S7 MMR/matchmaking was so busted they go Silver or Bronze, then once it is fixed grind back into D5, grind more into D2, and give it all up to play Overwatch, Dota2 (and Dota sucks), Smite, or Starcraft 2 (and this game is dying, legit dying) after the reset. No point in trying to go through it seemed. Now my Bronze ass is teaching them how to get into Plat/Diamond in Overwatch and some have even long since surpassed me in StarCraft 2 (where i suck, but im happy they found a mechanically and strategically intensive game they can obsess about).

I deserve low elo, but it really made me switch my priorities to only playing for fun and with friends, no other reason to play the game. Unlike my friends who no longer play League and switched to something else since they were so more heavily invested into the game than i ever was (maybe because i bragged about how much more fun i had with other games and that might have convinced them).

LoL is still fun, but it is no where near as fun as it was back in my day. It was more like 'Nam then, a cluster fuck of a mess, then strategy got back into the game, and then Riot took it away and made it worse than S3's lack of strategy and only about the champ or individual mechanics (i miss old Sion's shitty design sometimes, and im stupid for thinking that), but the current state of LoL is so much more awful in that you lost game so soon and only have to deal with the formality of "playing" the game for another 20 minutes as wave management and strategy of stalling no longer win games as often as S4 and especially S5 (S5 was awful balance wise, but overall was relatively healthier than what we went through S6 and Pre-S7).

Lexyy2 votes

Too bad low elo is the majority of the LoL population.... so yes, they can say what they think about the game.

SirTeemoMushroom2 votes

?? this account is level 21, and it's a smurf. my main is platinum 3. what is your point anyway?

Stars Shaper1 votes

Knowing about balance and putting that to practice are 2 separate things.

With that attitude of yours I guess that the majority of the unranked ppl still have more rights to talk about their view of the game compared to you.

TheHypeGoku1 votes

Knowing about balance and putting that to practice are 2 separate things.

People who are higher elo have a better time fusing the two and being successful at that.

DaNinad1 votes

If a Vayne gets fed in the laning phase, there's something wrong with your bot lane, or the Vayne is actually good unlike me.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

OP is silver I, looks like boosting/bought account. Nothing to see here.

[zombie-brand-clap]

TheHypeGoku1 votes

Season 2 Bronze. Season 3 Silver. Season 4 Gold. Season 5 Platinum. Season 6 Platinum. I'll be fine, I know how to climb.

A Basic Island1 votes

sry my main is banned on the forums :|

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