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To all of you complaining about Vayne..

mikesomms·9/14/2015, 1:15:17 PM·1 votes·559 views

Disclaimer: Before you down vote me into hell, it is not entirely a rant, it gets better.

Can we take a look at where her power spike is ? Not level 3 Not really atlevel 6 Not after her first back..

Isn't it when she finishes Blade of the Ruined King? Can we look at that item? How well it synergizes with Everything

Tanks. Wave clear. Assassins. Fighters. And worst of all marksmen, like Vayne. Don't get me wrong, this isn't a rant post; the concept of BotRK is healthy, its' current stats, not so much. It's just too well rounded to be considered a sustained damage or kiting item; its a stronger version of trinity force in a way, and that's a stat item!

I don't suggest we nerf BotRK, its just either its a tank breaker or a kiting item, it can't be both, especially combined with the abilities of champions like Vayne, Irelia, or Gnar. It is not healthy for gameplay. The power of this item needs to be shifted and then we will see what really makes champions like Vayne strong, and hopefully open up new build paths for her.

6 Comments

Hugify9/14/2015, 2:29:00 PM2 votes

Bork Isin't the problem,raw damage being weak Is,having to firstbuy the priciest item In the game first Is ridiculous.

Attack speed Is way too favored.

ABlueQuaker9/14/2015, 2:38:10 PM2 votes

BotRK is fine. Nerfing it would consequently nerf champions who do not warrant nerfs. Vayne's Kit is fine. Nerfing any aspect to her kit would impact her identity as a duellist. Vayne's Range is not fine. It's not punishing enough in Teamfights or in the Lane Phase.

Vayne would be perfectly tolerable with 500 Range.

The Loveless9/14/2015, 2:35:38 PM1 votes

It gives her everything she needs because she already has true damage and bonus AD from ult. she doesn't use abilities to deal damage like a caster so that's why she has a leg up on other carries. Btw only Trist has good AD scaling (or rather, she has use for raw AD) so she's not as right-clicky as typical marksmen.

Mages need AP and later magic pen to do their job. Assassins need to build AD or AP and maybe some pen to do their job. Tanks need hp and/or defense items to do their job, depending on what's already offered in their kit to make them tanky. Marksmen need AD, attack speed, armor pen, life steal, sometimes crit and sometimes an onhit item to do their job.

Vayne doesn't need armor pen as much as the others; she barely needs crit. That's why Bork gives her the leg up.

Edit: I don't want her nerfed. Riot needs to get over playing copycat with the original dota where carries only use right-clicks. Give your marksmen better use of abilities throughout all phases of the game, fix crit/RNG and don't let penetration get out of hand either.

BattleOxe9/14/2015, 2:36:37 PM1 votes

Actually, only problemI have with her is mobility