Should a jungler be responsible to finish off a player in a lane?

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Say two mid laners go at it and one ends up victorious with low health. Should the jungler be there to finish that champion and earn gold and exp? Or ignore that champion and let the struggling ally feed till defeat? Don't you think that the jungler should have constant map awareness and help struggling lanes in times of need in order to win? Or stay in jungle and farm off monsters?

This happened in a (ranked) game recently and I have been told that it is the laners job to be there for a kill, But how can I if I am already dead and there is clearly an easy kill for the taking?

Maybe I just had the concept of jungling wrong....

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

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TwinkiePro2 votes

If the situation permits, I don't see why not.

Let's put these through a couple scenarios first. A: You and the enemy Mid duke it out while the Jungle is at Red. You die on your side of the lane, but the wave is still in the middle. The enemy mid is low, but shoves quick and walks away. Your jungler can a) cancel doing red buff, meaning he gains nothing for his hp lost, and try to intercept the enemy mid laner. If the jungler has no gap closes, the likeliness of getting the kill is low, near impossible if they still have flash. The jungler loses out on gold and xp and the only real option that doesn't give a negative is evening the waves. or b) finish red buff and then either even the wave or continue farming. situation "b" is the safest for the jungler and contains far less risk.

B: enemy mid dives you and wins and ends up low. Jungler is at red. This situation presents the most opportunity for securing the kill, even without a gap close. Likely the enemy laner is shoved in and may get greedy for another wave as they usually flip back and push into their tower from this point.

or C: You dive and fail. Under very rare circumstances can and will a jungler attempt to secure a kill. This almost requires either range or a gap closer and flash to prevent dying under tower. This also very risky as it can end with the enemy mid gaining a double kill, setting you behind even more.

All these situations assume that the jungler is with "buff range", meaning halfway between lanes. If the jungler is farther out, say at gromp or krugs, or even ganking another lane, it is still not his responsibility.

With that out of the way, securing the kill doesn't prevent the mid from feeding. The enemy mid has still gained a gold advantage, and any kill gold gained goes towards the jungle, meaning the mid has gained nothing. There's also another thing. The jungler is not a baby sitter. He is not there as a get out of jail free card. The wisest use of a junglers time is doing these 3 things: 1) Counterjungling/ganking when the enemy jungler appears. Essentially, keeping track of the jungler, much like laners track their opponents. This can be way more difficult. 2) ganking winning lanes, especially ones where the opponent insist on pushing. This insures that the winning laners keep a solid lead, making them stronger for the mid and late game. 3) Farming. Especially If all lanes are a) late game champs b) shoving in when the enemy jungler is farm heavy (yi, fiddle, jax, rengar) and applying pressure against the jungler if possible. (after 6 against these champs the jungler must anticipate strong ganks)

Hopefully this clears up what junglers will do.

Teémò1 votes

If your ally is feeding the enemy laner they will continue too. So the gold income for the team needs to be transitioned off of them during lane phase. You the jungler can make a lot more use of the shutdown gold. Your ally obtaining shut down will only allow the enemy laner to get more gold. If you can kill him go for it, if you can't just keep power farming and look for opportunity else where. If you camp that lane, then the jungler can take advantage of your position reading your minions slain he can know where you started and what camps you've taken at least early on. If you keep showing up though then it's like "oh he took wraith/chicken camp" or "oh he just took wolves and only has his blue buff" The more your enemy knows the safer it is for him to prioritize objectives because you think your helping your mid laner, but really your just soaking up exp and putting him behind.

KirbyCake1 votes

junglers is a solo carry role, just remember that and you can't go wrong. as a mid laner i always make my jungler take blue and tax everything, and give them kills because of how much impact on the game they have right now.

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