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Can we talk about the Honor system?

majorminer08·7/8/2017, 8:52:10 PM·8 votes·1,072 views

Ok so I have a gripe with the honor system and no, it isn't "It takes too long to level up". It should take a while to level up so taht when you see a level 5 you think "Wow this person must be really nice". But....it won't and here why.

It's based off of games played not honors.

And yes I know that honor does forward your progress but even Riot says every time you get honored that it is a small amount of progress.If you have more time on your hands and play more games and don't say anything all game you will progress faster than someone with not a lot of time but is very charismatic and fun to play with. This is bad. It has the same problem as the Champion Mastery system. It doesn't reward being a nice player just like the Champion System doesn't reward you for being a skilled player (Until you hit level 5 and actually need to play well to get level 6 and 7). As much that I hate the Mastery system and how its calculated on games won and not skill; that isn't the topic of this discussion.

Now I can understand why they made honor not give much progress. It's because there are only 4 people on your team and they all only have 1 honor to give and if there are multiple people being honorable in a match it comes down to chance if the person will honor you and you progress or if they wont and you will be stuck where you started. That sounds like a shitty system in of itself but there is an easy solution.

Bring back Honorable Opponent

I don't see why Riot removed it. It was the only honor people used before the update and they removed it which befuddles me. Or hell give 2 honors to teammates and they can only give one honor per Summoner if you really don't want to bring back Honorable Opponent.

The other flaw with the system is the bonus you get if all of your teammates honor. I am sure every one has been in the situation where a toxic teammate doesn't honor anyone and then you lose out on that bonus. Your progression in this system shouldn't be hindered by toxic players I think we can all agree on that. Albeit the bonus is small it is still better than nothing.

These are some pretty bad problems with the system and I hope Riot changes them in the future and don't ignore it like they did with Champion Mastery because in its current state Honor will be forgotten just as easily as before the update.

13 Comments

Critmaster Garen7/8/2017, 10:55:20 PM5 votes

i actually hate it when people attention whore for honor.

why should someone who doesnt type AT ALL in chat and only focuses on the game while communicating with pings get honored less than someone who constantly spams the chat with "positive messages" because he wants to draw attention from people to get honored?

you can do all the things that are worthy of honor without typing a single word in chat. you can be tilt proof when under pressure, you can make good calls or generally play well enough for people to give a gg.

i actually had to mute people because of their constant pretentous behaviour and how distracting the chat spam was. also stopped giving honor, because this entire system seems like a popularity contest where people actually fall for the guys who keep nonstop talking and dont recognize the silent players.

the rare occations now when im giving honor its usually to people who focused on the game, stayed silent and didnt beg for it, and generally did something notable.

Mast3rShake7/8/2017, 10:49:47 PM3 votes

I am pretty sure Riot said they will be adding back Honorable Opponent to one of the very first threads that pointed it out.

amazinick12137/8/2017, 8:57:47 PM2 votes

Is there a way to subscribe to a post? I'm curious to see the comments because I can see these same flaws as well.

SwiftKitten887/9/2017, 1:53:37 AM2 votes

there may be some flaws with the new system but this new system has tremendously increase my enjoyment of the game. and i just spent $50 on RP just to show riot how much i love the new honor system. i also got my first 3x honor last game

and EVERY nidalee game i have played this month (so far) i have gotten an S on because i have had teammates who didnt rage who were friendly.. and who worked as a team.

this is the happiest i have been playing league since nidalee's rework in 4.10. and it BECUASE of how good the honor system is... is it perfect? no... but its damn near to it. and it had made this game so much more enjoyable i HAD to thank riot. and the best way i knew how to do that was with $$$.

Protoform X7/9/2017, 4:01:53 AM2 votes

I think of it as less of an incentive for me to be really nice as it is an incentive for players who may default into toxic behavior to avoid doing so.

YourMomsNewLover7/9/2017, 1:10:55 AM1 votes

What about the fact that I've gotten 6 key fragments and no chests since the release? Are they gonna figure out a way to balance it out, or am I just doomed to have nothing but keys? I've been trying to grind my champion Mastery scores, but if I'm never getting a chest I'll just give up until it's fixed and go play some other game.