Ugh cass

Valfreya·May 7, 2016·10 votes·618 views

First game with her with the new update and its horrible. The q is no longer auto cast making it annoying to cast unless you have smart cast on, her w does almost to not damage and the hud is wrong, so its really hard to use it right, and dont even get me started on her e, almost no damage till she is in way late game and the heal just does not exist. Riot, guys cass needs damage she doesn't need to heal the heal does nothing for her at all, she needs damage if she messes up a spell, she messed up and dies, but now with her update even if she hits all her stuff she does no damage. Its almost as bad as the karma update, but atleast karma can do a bit of damage. Maybe I played her wrong, but I dont know she seems really underwhelming. Stop remaking and tweaking under played champs if they are not broken, only to make them worse and kinda useless.

14 Comments

TesracMay 7, 20164 votes

They took the vision from her W and made it collide with terrain and only catabolite at a fixed range, removing all the utility from it. In exchange they have it that ridiculously useless grounded affect, which only stupid enemies inside a very narrow area, doesn't prevent them from dashing through it and doesn't stop some movement abilities even when the caster is inside of it.

Hey old passive wasn't the best, Burt it worked a hell of a lot better then this new one, it actually penalizes her by denying her an entire class of item, she's there only champion in the game that gets penalized by hey passive.

With the changes to man's reverb you have to rush a year or something similar early game it you run dry way to quickly, But if you doing that you have no damage and enemies can walk up to you and kill you with total impunity because they know you aren't going to be able to do anything about it.

Shortened range and increased mana cost on Q as well as losing the smart cast which makes it even harder to land.

Also, Riot won't answer anyone's questions about it, why they did it, out the reasoning behind it..... They'll happily discuss the other mages and item changed, but Cassie is persona non grata......

I think it's pretty clear that they just don't want folks playing her.

Romans 8May 8, 20161 votes

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They took the vision from her W and made it collide with terrain and only catabolite at a fixed range, removing all the utility from it. In exchange they have it that ridiculously useless grounded affect, which only stupid enemies inside a very narrow area, doesn't prevent them from dashing through it and doesn't stop some movement abilities even when the caster is inside of it.

Hey old passive wasn't the best, Burt it worked a hell of a lot better then this new one, it actually penalizes her by denying her an entire class of item, she's there only champion in the game that gets penalized by hey passive.

With the changes to man's reverb you have to rush a year or something similar early game it you run dry way to quickly, But if you doing that you have no damage and enemies can walk up to you and kill you with total impunity because they know you aren't going to be able to do anything about it.

Shortened range and increased mana cost on Q as well as losing the smart cast which makes it even harder to land.

Also, Riot won't answer anyone's questions about it, why they did it, out the reasoning behind it..... They'll happily discuss the other mages and item changed, but Cassie is persona non grata......

I think it's pretty clear that they just don't want folks playing her.

Riot listened to a lot of players. There were opinions wide across the board, from ppl who wanted her original kit, to ppl who wanted her to keep most of her signature playstyle, to ppl who didn't like core aspects of her kit.

They tried to keep her identity and incorporate a lot of players' opinions, but I think they are ppl who don't like her playstyle or haven't played extensively with her, so of course it's a bug mess.

VesarixxMay 7, 20163 votes

Also her W should not be blocked by terrain

Succubús GFMay 7, 20161 votes

THIS

Succubús GFMay 7, 20162 votes

Her update/rework was incredibly weak. She is extremely slow now. I absolutely hate her now and i regret buying a skin for her. She was once my favorite champion to just curbstomp with but now, im jjust so annoyed with how useless she is now

ValfreyaMay 7, 20161 votes

She wasn't even a curbstomp champ, in a sense if you knew how to play her yes, she did great but now she does almost no damage, I thought late update on her was bad with the scaling passive, but this is beyond horrible for cass players and to add on she might be better support other than being useless but thats all her damage now allows is possibly being a support with her w thats about it right now she isnt a mage carry

ValfreyaMay 7, 20161 votes

Like if she messed up her q and e she was dead, now if you hit her q and e which doesnt reduce the cd and really not much extra damage (heal?) she still has no damage, cass does not need healing unless played by noobs and cass wasnt made for new people

ValfreyaMay 7, 20161 votes

Dunno how this is getting negative posts, their is a problem that needs to be fixed, we don't need to be upset about malz since he was buffed or wondering why zed needs a slow, cass need her place, as a dot mage, when she does right she is great.

Electric BuyersMay 7, 20161 votes

I actually love that they took away the auto smartcast.

ValfreyaMay 7, 2016

Why, I loved how her mobility worked in on it, it went hand in hand, you could be running and q and get the movement speed, now you got to q, click while running.while its the same for some clicky champs cass was not.

Electric BuyersMay 7, 20161 votes

I have her Q set to smartcast already, and regular cast set to shift+q. So in lane, shift+q is nice for poke. I stick to just smartcast for chasing or peeling.

VesarixxMay 7, 20161 votes

I use smartcast for everything already so I didn't even notice the change

Grand ElevenMay 8, 20162 votes

you would have if you used range indicators. The old spell wouldn't cast on release with range indicators. Now it does. It's one of the few things I like <shrug>