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Diana - The moon will never rise again?

CoroKoro··3 votes·1,114 views

Ugh. Ok this has been bothering me for a while now and I think if I don't say anything I'm gonna explode. Basically Diana . Seriously. I loved Diana to freaking death. She was my first champion I bought, first champion I got a pentakill with, first champion I won a ranked game with, her lore is just amazing!! The list goes on and on (oh did I mention that amazing Lunar Goddess skin -u-). But honestly, I haven't been able to back her up at all lately. I used to play her mid lane like A LOT. She was my #1 mid laner to play. And the sad part is, Diana has completely lost her potential imo. If you don't win your game by 25 mins, you better hope you're not the only one on your team who's fed, because she falls off SOOO hard no matter how fed you get late game. She just lacks teamfight potential and her role crisis just drives me insane. Some suggestions I have are maybe giving her e a damage ap ratio and an actual vaccum? Because for the entirety of me playing her I've been using her e more for its slow than its vaccum because the vaccum doesn't pull in that far. I would try to go into more technicalities, but I'm REALLY bad with that kinda stuff. I saw Vesh had some ideas her and I got really excited to see something and I mean anything done to Diana so that I could play her again. Is her whole role crisis thing so difficult to fix that no one's done anything to her yet? Or has she just been forgotten (I don't see anyone play her anymore)? To be honest, I just want someone to bring my favorite Lunari back to her spotlight - er - moonlight.

14 Comments

Agidyne3 votes

Make her a fucking Assassin and she will be fine

Seriously, her kit screams ASSASSIN with that double gapcloser and 3 damaging spells and a damaging passive.

She is boring to play otherwise

"but no, Diana is toxic because she either kills her target or dies trying."

What's fucking wrong with that?

CoroKoro1 votes

My point wasn't what to make her more or less when to change her. This probably sounds selfish af, but I haven't heard the name "Diana" mentioned by any league players for a while. And it bother the hell out of me. I hear Taric, Evelynn, hell, I've even heard people begging for a Darius rework! It makes me feel like she doesn't matter anymore :( This might be just me, but also because Leona is played so much I feel like Diana should be played too. I agree on her becoming an assassin, but the thing is look at other assassin's and look at Diana. Akali has an escape (3 dashes) and her twilight shroud in case she runs into problems. Diana doesn't have that luxury. Her ap scaling falls of so damn hard compared to any other mid laner. I could dominate a game 20 and 1 against a Katarina mid and if that game reaches 35 minutes, that will have been enough time for Kat to catch up to Diana.

Drogmyre1 votes

To be fair, Evelynn has been either broken as all get out or absolutely shit tier for basically the entire history of this game. She's by far Riot's biggest failure in regards to balance. No matter what they do, they just can't seem to get her right.

Agidyne1 votes

When was the last time that you saw or heard the name "Zyra" in a stream or anywhere actually?

Same with Varus, Diana and some others.

Those are the true forgotten champions, you never hear about them for being too good, but you don't hear anyone saying they are too bad either.

People mention Urgot because he is believed to be a shit champion, almost always forgetting the actual underplayed champions like Volibear.

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

she has an assasins kit without an escape and that screams TOXICCCCC

if she gets fed she is both a tank (she gets some good hp for not having an escape) and an assasin is she fails she is nothing

riot tries to give her a role that wont force the "kill or die trying" playestyle on her (which already makes fiora a big crap of a champion, because all she does is ult in a tf and hope that you will kill the enemy before they kill you, there is nothing more and nothing fun about that cvhampion, blindly buffing or nerfing diana will make her fiora v2 )

they want to fix her but it takes work so be patient

Agidyne1 votes

Diana is already the AP Version of Riven.

Goes unstoppable if Ahead and is useless if behind,

That's the design I like the most as it actually makes the most sense.

Your decisions matter in this game. She isn't Ryze or Jax or anyone of that sort.

A champion that no matter how far behind he falls, when he gets rolling, he simply overpowers the enemy team be himself.

Diana is different.

If you do something well, you get rewarded for it.

If you do something bad, you get punished for it.

Swain works exactly the same way. Other champions I usually play.

That's how I would like to see most Assassins, as they seem to be too forgiving atm. Just look at Zed.

Let's have some champions who are rewarded for standing and fighting rather than kiting and running away, shall we?

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

diana is an ap version of fiora not riven if she would be an ap riven she would be perfectly fine and not needing a rework

That's how I would like to see most Assassins, as they seem to be too forgiving atm. Just look at Zed.

its something for something zed is the safest but his burst is the easiest to counter

Agidyne1 votes

Diana brings a small ammount of utility to her team, her E is actually pretty useful in a teamfight and since her Q reveals targets, I think we can safely say she is more useful than Fiora in teamfights.

She is burst oriented, not AA oriented, that's why I rather compare her to Riven than to Fiora.

Riven is also a burst champion, despite her burst being actually sustained damage.

She also gets tankier for building Offensive items and her utility comes from hard CC. Just like Diana.

Fiora on the other hand, Fiora is literally just damage. No shields, no Crowd Control, Just Damage.

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

if you compare her kit to riven or fiora then notice that both riven and fiora have kits that represents one playstyle riven is a mobile fighter who excells at tonns of dmg and every part of her kit works that way, even her shield allows for closing gaps and charges her passive for dmg fioras kit is made to just all in, and well her ripostes active is not the best but the ad bonus actualy fits

when we speak about diana her q and ult scream assasin while e w and passive scream fighter this cases problems and is the cause of the rework she will get (and riots want to make her a fighter, i pesonaly like that)

Diana is different. If you do something well, you get rewarded for it. If you do something bad, you get punished for it.

i would like to just ttell you a little gimmick about this sometimes you cant do anything with such a champ, so there was no reward and sometimes you cant get pnished with such a champ (main reason for her nerfs)

Wolf with laces2 votes

I agree and why doesn't this has any comments, Diana is a great champ i too love her in every way, but people seem to forgot about her :/

Insanity Kiwi1 votes

Honestly Diana should be sort of an AP Bruiser if Riot isn't happy with her being an assassin. I mean look at her passive and W.

Binga1 votes

Ugh. Ok this has been bothering me for a while now and I think if I don't say anything I'm gonna explode. Basically Diana . Seriously. I loved Diana to freaking death. She was my first champion I bought, first champion I got a pentakill with, first champion I won a ranked game with, her lore is just amazing!! The list goes on and on (oh did I mention that amazing Lunar Goddess skin -u-). But honestly, I haven't been able to back her up at all lately. I used to play her mid lane like A LOT. She was my #1 mid laner to play. And the sad part is, Diana has completely lost her potential imo. If you don't win your game by 25 mins, you better hope you're not the only one on your team who's fed, because she falls off SOOO hard no matter how fed you get late game. She just lacks teamfight potential and her role crisis just drives me insane. Some suggestions I have are maybe giving her e a damage ap ratio and an actual vaccum? Because for the entirety of me playing her I've been using her e more for its slow than its vaccum because the vaccum doesn't pull in that far. I would try to go into more technicalities, but I'm REALLY bad with that kinda stuff. I saw Vesh had some ideas her and I got really excited to see something and I mean anything done to Diana so that I could play her again. Is her whole role crisis thing so difficult to fix that no one's done anything to her yet? Or has she just been forgotten (I don't see anyone play her anymore)? To be honest, I just want someone to bring my favorite Lunari back to her spotlight - er - moonlight.

I don't know what you're talking about i think Diana is great. I haven't played her since about mid-season (aside from 1 ranked 5's game where we versed a full team of plats and i went 9-1) but she does insane damage and basically insta-kills anyone at level 6 if she has the mana before backing. Maybe you aren't building her right but my win/loss with her in ranked is 17-6 with 11.5/3.2/6.5 per game. She is extremely good and the only reason i honestly stopped playing her was because i played and won 9 games in a row with her (ranked) then got bored of the champ. Definitely going to play her at the beginning of season 5 and get those early wins :D

CrimsonRakan1 votes

i play her top. i would mid as her, but if i get to play mid, i choose Nidalee. I'm weaker at top lane champions and i main mages so i go with Diana.

her 3 main perks are 1) her passive and E 2) her QRR combo 3) her Attack Damage Resistance(her W and tank build possibilities)

item 3027 is the main items i grab

item 3089 or item 3116 will always be the next item i grab to jumpstart her damage out put and her QRR combo.

to compliment her passive, grab item 3006 item 3115, if your going for an assassin build, then grabitem 3091.

and for armor and health grab item 3157 item 3110 item 3116

i like to end with item 3027 item 3089 item 3115 item 3006 item 3110 item 3116.

this gives her AP, Armor, Health, Mana, Attack speed and Max CD(even though she doesn't really need it).

last game i played as her i almost sent this to all in chat because i was enjoying my self a little too much, "Run run, Little one, Because I'm fed and you are done".

My main problem as her is in the end I'm a tank assassin and they will always have to 1 v 2 me. she's not the problem, its that your team never ends up backing you up because they are cowards and quite often deserve to lose. I always will tell my team mates to stay close to me as Diana because I clean up.

Honestly i wouldn't want her any other way. Instead of complaining about her kit, start coming up with ideas for that epic Eclipse champion everybody wants made!!

Binga1 votes

You could go with the build above I suppose but i don't enjoy playing diana this way. I play her as a mid lane assasin that can one shot someone and then zonyas while the team engages. My build usually goes: Rush Deathfire grasp for extra burst, then you rush either Zonyas if you feel you need it or Lich Bane and get the other 3rd, You then want to get rabadons and finish off with a GA (again if you feel you need it) or a Void Staff for more damage. Get Sorcerer Shoes somewhere in there aswell, Somewhere after DFG. With this build you can basically one shot someone and then proc shield aoe damage, Use your E then Zonyas, Team engages then you can usually Q and even possibly Clean up and live. Diana is in a good place imo.

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