A discussion on "Quasus" or the "New Nasus Build"

Dictator Dingle·Nov 30, 2016·1 votes·1,602 views

This is my first post on the boards. I've only been playing this game for about 2 years but this version of Nasus is probably the least fun thing to play against that I've seen so far and I feel he needs to be changed to offer more counter play. His E should not able to clear an entire wave without building any damage. It allows him to build full tank and be basically unkillable solo. If you want to fight him you have to fight under minions and if you do he uses his E and shreds your armor and the minions kill you while he just ults and sustains. It forces you to stay under your tower and clear and then he just slowly chunks you down with his E until you're forced to back and he takes your turret. I've played against him quite a few times and every time he forces the jungler to go top and gank which even when he is killed it doesn't relieve any pressure from the map. Because of the passive of ZZ'rot he is back in lane doing the exact same thing in no time. If you leave to go fight 4v5 he just pushes down to your inhibitor or you stay and wave clear and hope your team can win the 4v4. It's an unbalanced build that doesn't allow a 1v1 to ever go in your favor ever. I feel like his E needs to be changed so he can't clear so easily while still building full tank.

9 Comments

EedatNov 30, 20162 votes

Could be worse. item 3512 item 3060 Heimerdinger is still a thing

Zane ZephyrNov 30, 20161 votes

I personally think his E needs some kind of a counterplay nerf. It literally has zero counterplay. The initial damage is instant upon cast and spell shields don't block it and it's such a large area that you can't just "dodge it" or predict where it is going to go. I think it's going in the direction of MF's E earlier in the season and should be nerfed accordingly.

KilanostNov 30, 20161 votes

Counterplay = better wave clear and zoning him off the wave. If he's not stacking his dueling potential is shit.

Zane ZephyrDec 1, 20161 votes

You clearly don't understand what the OP is referring to.

The new thing with nasus is pretty much forgoing stacking and maxing E first and just pushing the wave to the tower, rushing a zzrot portal, and putting heavy pressure on the top lane.

Ravenous HowlsDec 1, 20161 votes

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You clearly don't understand what the OP is referring to.

The new thing with nasus is pretty much forgoing stacking and maxing E first and just pushing the wave to the tower, rushing a zzrot portal, and putting heavy pressure on the top lane.

I think he understands but you do not. He's saying that he can farm waves with E and push but at the sacrifice of being able to duel mid-late game. This build is actually terrible when you consider what you get vs what you lose.

Nasus by nature does not scale well with lots of gold or Creep score but has a ton of hidden gold value in his stacks. Every 3 minions is like a free long sword worth 350 gold. By not stacking and just farming creeps with E he has lost all that hidden value by mid game and rendered his passive and Q worthless. You are now trying to use a champ with 3 abilities and no passive. True you may create pressure top for your mid and bot lane to snowball but you are basically forcing your team into, what most people hate about split push Nasus, a 4v5 or you are asking your team to shoulder the responsibility of snowballing the game and carrying you b/c you will have no relevant damage to bring to fights or objectives.

It will be much better to have a Nasus with 300 stacks and maybe only 120 CS mid game then have a Nasus with 300 CS and 120 stacks mid game. At this point if the teams went even or the enemy team was only slightly behind or ahead they can focus him with impunity and with very little fear of reprisal from him. At best Nasus is a glorified meat shield if he builds this way.

KilanostDec 1, 20161 votes

Exactly. Thank you for elaborating.

Ravenous HowlsDec 2, 20161 votes

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Exactly. Thank you for elaborating.

No problem! I knew exactly what you were getting at ;)

KorilloDec 2, 20161 votes

Tryndamere

Critmaster GarenDec 2, 20161 votes

buy mr, and itemize into waveclear. his e deals magic damage. and walk out of it when he throws it down.

i dont like the build either, but not because its hard to play against, but because people who copy this build usually dont understand how nieche it is, and just fuck themselves over, effectively throw the game.