Wind Wall and you: Is this a projectile?

Stars Shaper··16 votes·3,767 views

Since there is a lot of concerns and ignorance about Wind Wall interaction with certain skills I'll try to make a list of the most debated and unusual skills that get blocked/destroyed or not by Yasuo's Wind Wall with a small explanation.

Notice that this is not space for suggestions and balance discussion but merely an informative list that will get updated with provided feedback if I happen to miss some.

Here we go

First of all the definition of a projectile: "A projectile is any object thrown into space (empty or not) by the exertion of a force. Although any object in motion through space (for example a thrown baseball) may be called a projectile, the term more commonly refers to a ranged weapon".

Note that Wind Wall doesn't consider moving champions as projectiles (dashes and charges are unaffected) and that ray-like skills are not affected either (Lux R, Xerath Q).

Wind Wall starts as Yasuo uses it so it will block projectiles even during his "load up" time but only if they impact on it's current location and not the final one.

The following projectiles are described as passing over or under Wind Wall and do not interact with it:

  • Ekko Ekko's Parallel Convergence
  • Nautilus Nautilus's Depth Charge
  • Syndra Syndra's Force of Will (thrown object)
  • Xerath Xerath's Rite of the Arcane
  • Ziggs Ziggs's Mega Inferno Bomb (while over the map)

The following projectiles are not destroyed when they hit Wind Wall and their units will drop to the ground beside the wall:

  • Azir Azir's Conquering Sands and Emperor's Divide
  • Fizz Fizz's Chum the Waters
  • Jinx Jinx's Flame Chompers!
  • Olaf Olaf's Undertow
  • Orianna Orianna's Command: Attack
  • Zed Zed's Living Shadow
  • Zilean Zilean's Time Bomb

Now here it goes a list of things that get destroyed by Wind Wall even if they don't look like projectiles (I will investigate other confusing skills/attacks that you guys point out).

  • Velkoz Vel'Koz Rift (W), what gets blocked it's the "knife" used to cut the rift open so the rift will exist and stop at Wind Wall's location
  • Velkoz Vel'koz knockup (E), as before you can see in the animation and read in the tooltip that there is something that travels from Vel'koz to the selected area and that is what gets stopped
  • Braum Braum's Glacial Fissure (R) produces a shockwave that travels on ground level. It's not really hinted in the tooltip but it's coded as an "object" with a travel time so it falls into the projectile category and it makes some sense (debatable but a shockwave is the closest thing to what Braum's Ultimate does).
  • Viktor Viktor's Laser (E) is blocked for the (rather illogical) coding of its traveling on the ground producing explosions at different location. Imagine it as a really fast laser machinegun.

The following skills are not blocked by WInd Wall even if their visual is projectile-like.

  • Malzahar Malzahar's Call of the Void (Q) it's a linear AoE skill thus it's visual is misleading showing it as a projectile

The following skills suffer from skill coding that doesn't consider "large skills" as a multitude of projectiles but as a single one causing the illogical resul of the entire skill to be destroyed.

  • Ezreal Ezreal (R)
  • Nami Nami (R)
  • Talon Talon (R)

Note: Contrary to this, Azir's Ultimate has it's soldiers coded and single entities menaing that if a soldier isn't hit by the wall he will travel the entire distance even if other soldiers are stopped. So there is hope for a more realistic outcome if Riot puts their hands on them.

Edit: Here is the link to the wiki page of Wind Wall which I used as main source for informations. In this thread I highlighted the skills I consider more confusing and unusual about their interaction with WInd Wall, the wiki page has the full list if you want to check it yourself.

31 Comments

Snake Town7 votes

Ok, now explain why it blocks Khazix Q

MadManApocalypse2 votes

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Ok, now explain why it blocks Khazix Q

He throws spikes.

Pikmints5 votes

Q - Kha'Zix slashes the target enemy, dealing physical damage, increased by 30% against isolated targets.

You have that confused with his W

Stars Shaper2 votes

Kha'zix's Q shouldn't be blockable, do you know if it happens only after you evolve it or even unevolved?

Snake Town1 votes

I know it blocks evolved, not sure about unevolved.

windwolf7771 votes

Possibly it's ~~counts ~~coded as a ranged auto attack?

Warzedan7 votes

Braum ult? He's not really throwing something, and a hovering wall wouldn't block a giant rift surging level to the ground.

Stars Shaper3 votes

Braum's ultimate is considered a projectile because it's "something" that travels and that something can be identified as the shockwave. Things that travel underground but have effects along their path or are a bit over the ground level during their travel are blocvked by it (Rek'Sai undeground Q for example).

Adding to the list.

Ormylar4 votes

Another skill Yasuo's Wall does not block Malzahar's Call of the Void for some odd reason (though I'm not complaining).

Stars Shaper6 votes

On the wiki it's written that it's a linear AoE, misleading visuals I guess.

Adding

Nixzilla3 votes

A quick question. Why does it destroy almost every ult thrown into it but causes Fizz's ult to just stop then come up next to it? Why does his not die?

Stars Shaper2 votes

I do believe that is mostly a matter of balance rather than common sense, but yet I can do some conjectures...

Ultimates and skills that get destroyed are either things that "live" in air only (Ez and Ashe ultimates) or are set to explode on impact (Ziggs bombs). The only exception I see to this sort of "rule" is Nami's ultimate but since it doesn't make sense to have a stationary water wave I guess it still falls into this reasoning.

On the other side, skills and ultimates that don't get destroyed are either bound to the ground (Azir soldiers), considered as part of the champion (Zed's Shadow again and Orianna's Ball) or are things set to dentonate over time rather than on impact (Zilean bombs, Jinx Chompers and Fizz lure fish) or even more things that simply bounce back (Olaf axe).

Arsenic Sulfur3 votes

It's counted as a unit, not a projectile.

Xicashina1 votes

{quoted}

A quick question. Why does it destroy almost every ult thrown into it but causes Fizz's ult to just stop then come up next to it? Why does his not die?

It doesn't kill breams ult either, similar to fizz, however i believe its because most projectile ultimates can't interact in a way so that they "drop" on the ground. Think like a floating ezreal ult that would make no sense

The Deckowner1 votes

the moment u play talon vs yasuo u u realized ur ult gets block by windwall.

wtf

Stars Shaper2 votes

What's wrong wit it is that if Wind Wall blocks one single blade at the end (or start) of the travel all the others get destroyed too. I'm sure this will get fixed in the future as there is already a code which dientifise the number of blades hitting the target.

The Deckowner3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Stars Shaper,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EW6LYbwj,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2015-12-23T22:14:54.830+0000)

What's wrong wit it is that if Wind Wall blocks one single blade at the end (or start) of the travel all the others get destroyed too. I'm sure this will get fixed in the future as there is already a code which dientifise the number of blades hitting the target.

it better be, having 2 out of ur 4 skills completely disabled with a costless large size wall is kinda bs.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

Viktor's E goes through the wall IDK where you got that info from.

Stars Shaper1 votes

I remeber that it used not to and that a Rioter confirmed that being blocked was intended. I know that Wind Wall got a little buggy since the preseason patch so that might need some testing too.

Maximum Ao Shin1 votes

ezreal ult? ROFL, fuck that thing

Stellafreyja1 votes

For projectiles not destroyed, I'm pretty sure when Yasuo Windwall's Syndra's ult, it just causes her spheres to fall to the ground. It used to destroy them until some patch recently.

Stars Shaper1 votes

Then it needs some testing.

Timely Voidling1 votes

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Stars Shaper1 votes

For some skills I used the WInd Wall lolwiki page so some informations might be outdated. Yet I've never saw in patch notes a change about Zilean bombs so it might actually be a bug.

From what I remeber a Rioter said that they will change the visual of Nautilus Ulti to make it more comprehensible why it isn't blocked.

HayRoss1 votes

Why does it block TahmKench Q?

Stars Shaper1 votes

For the same reason it blocks Orianna's Q.

I know you'll reply "but the tongue is continous and not a projectile", for the sake of balance I presume that you can imagine it as a whip and hence is the lash that gets stopped.

HayRoss1 votes

If I stretch my arm out to 20 feet and smack someone with a mace, that's not a projectile, that's just a really long range melee attack

Poske1 votes

Start reading

Sorry but yasuo windwall does block ekko q

dont feel like reading anymore

Stars Shaper1 votes

You might want to re-read then because what it's written there is Ekko's W

Poske1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Stars Shaper,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EW6LYbwj,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2015-12-24T13:15:00.218+0000)

You might want to re-read then because what it's written there is Ekko's W

Literally baseboll ekko appears and swings some gadget I dont know why it shouldnt be blocked

Stars Shaper1 votes

Because Wind Wall doesn't go infinitely upwards otherwise it would block also Xerath ultimate.

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