Decide what you want Eve to be

MrButtermancer·6/27/2015, 6:46:03 AM·2 votes·431 views

Runeglaive is supposed to be an AP item. This is exquisitely clear from the fact that Sheen is actually better on AD previous to the upgrade to Runeglaive. Runeglaive has been touted as an Eve item time and time again. The vast majority of Eve's damage is AP. So why does her E do physical damage?

Eve cannot be built optimally hybrid, especially in a mobility meta. She can't stay close enough to AA regularly. Her primary source of damage has been, and will always be, her Q. Making her E deal physical damage is an artificial and construed way to make her deal less damage. You either need to build her sub-optimally (hybrid), or ignore that E deals physical and hope for the best (flat AP, no armor pen). Because of the nature of her abilities (where the cooldowns and AP ratios lie) AP Eve does more damage than hybrid Eve. So why is a physical damage E necessary?

Either acknowledge that you think E does too much damage, reduce the base damage and allow it to scale with magic pen, OR revoke the E to physical damage change, restoring Eve's identity as a real AP jungler, OR completely rework Eve. I get the feeling that the E to physical damage change was just to shove Eve out of any kind of competitive play due to there being no way to build her. If you don't like her with permastealth, or you think that is toxic, take that away. Give her something else. What's not pleasant is a champion with interesting mechanics being kneecapped by a damage type that makes no sense.

Given the rest of Eve's kit and identity, E should deal magic damage. Heck, if Eve came out today, she'd have some kind of magic damage on auto attack mechanic.

9 Comments

Stellafreyja6/27/2015, 7:03:42 AM1 votes

I build AD tanky Eve. :3

Craft Zeppelin6/27/2015, 10:50:32 AM1 votes

Erm I don't get it. Eve has a great diversity of items, which is very rare. cinderhulk, warrior, ruinking, hextech, ludens, randuins, banshees almost any item is viable on her.

What youre saying making her a straight out ap jungler without permastealth or E damage is like asking for a straightforward nerf.

Knight SoIaire 6/27/2015, 10:59:20 AM1 votes

Her primary source of damage has been, and will always be, her Q.

yeah and hecarims too especialy when its used to proc a hundred and one sheens

in fact the most succesfull builds i saw in the past were builds utilizing on hits like triforce/gauntlet and botrk followed by a big load of tankyness ... her q never even showed on death recap

but yeah she needs a complete rework aimed at making her stealth a thing

RedTrinketGoneHa6/27/2015, 3:20:17 PM1 votes

Eve's E was primarily changed to physical damage cause the base and 1:1 ap ratio 1 shot squishies with DFG since DFG amplified MAGIC DAMGE, now that it is gone i see no reason to keep it physical damage

Summonerrr 16/28/2015, 11:55:04 AM1 votes

This draws attention to the fact that eve INDISPUTABLY needs a quality re-work. Not a Veigarwork, not a Cassiopeiawork, a full rework. It doesn't matter how you rationalize it, her kit just doesn't feel right, work right, look right, and play right for a roaming stealth-assassin jungler.

End logical discussion

My conspiracy theory is that Riot knew the surprise buttrape-from-stealth glass cannon that was her S3 kit would only get stronger, so they took the lazy way out and shotgunned her kit to buy time. Biting them in the rear now, eh?