Instead of swapping champions in draft, you should allow us to swap pick placements.

Teemu·5/21/2016, 12:39:49 AM·81 votes·2,771 views

Champ swapping is a pain. People forget to trade, forget to change their runes/masteries/summoners, or just plain forget which champs they do and do not have. It's a nightmare to organize a champ swap in solo queue. You should allow us to change the order in which we pick as opposed to the champions which we've picked.

27 Comments

Jeddy0175/21/2016, 3:36:27 AM14 votes

The cutest champ in League is our magnificent lord,Urgot .

Nameless Voice5/21/2016, 1:05:40 AM9 votes

Yup, I always felt they should have done this as part of the new champion select.

On the downside, I that it would mean that whatever team picks first gets countered far more often, since the second team can swap their counterable roles to the end of the list.

Jet Sett5/21/2016, 2:13:12 AM3 votes

Confused, poll has two wrong answers, CLEARLY Shyvana is the cutest champ in league right now.

World Ender5/21/2016, 3:48:41 AM2 votes

The thing is, any player can walk their champ into any lane. Swapping roles has no effect on the actual gameplay, while swapping champs does. If I swap my jungle for someone's mid, that has zero effect other than coming to an agreement about roles. But if I need to first pick (insert broken champion here) for the mid laner who is last pick, that has severe impact on how the game could play out. I understand the feeling of wanting to swap roles with someone, but usually if someone agrees to swap then that can actually be done in chat, whereas I can't play someone's champ for them if I pick it.

RedCyclone5/21/2016, 9:49:28 AM2 votes

Seems like a decent idea, though with time I can't help but feel there is going to be a mini meta for pick order and that's just going to piss me off

Mhihnj5/21/2016, 8:37:34 AM2 votes

That poll is the hardest decision i have ever made

D3m37r15/21/2016, 10:51:37 PM2 votes

The last thing i want is for our first pick to be like"LAST PICK OR FEED".

Snowplosion5/21/2016, 8:15:39 PM1 votes

This is a great idea, but LCS and professional leagues would lose so much if this were to be inputted.

Troll for Trump5/22/2016, 7:36:17 AM1 votes

Yes, I really hate picking Darius Top only for them to pick Kayle so I get shat on the whole game, and the jgler won't come...

but that would just likely lead to most people going in one certain order, and also gives premades/trolls more opportunities to troll, especially the former, as they can just drag you wherever pick order they want.

redfeenix5/22/2016, 5:07:49 PM1 votes

Very intersting, but thats only gonna fix a small aspect of the system.

Also I dont approve of selecting roles BEFORE the lobby. In my opinion ranked should be a measure of ALL champs/roles overall not just one.

RisenDarkKnight5/21/2016, 5:35:01 AM1 votes

I honestly thought this said "dick placements" instead of pick placements at first and I was really confused it had so many upvotes. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Sohleks5/21/2016, 6:15:48 AM1 votes

This is actually a really good idea.

It'll make position swapping extremely common in high elo so much so a new norm may be set and pressured upon. But in the hands of cooperative players it's fine. And it roots out the randomness of pick order & roles of the current draft system.

It completely removes the risks of champion swapping.

But it would mean more activity and complexity in champion select on a regular basis. Then again, it can be ignored and it's not a major factor on the game. People will just overreact. Personally I'm fine with letting people be people if the system itself is better. But that's just me. I'm still bias towards non role select draft because I learned to round out my play in all positions over the years.. That would benefit me most..

IDK about others but I actually get bothered how the positions of players in draft is random when playing ranked premade 3v3 or premade 5v5. Why can't we control that in the lobby. Why is it randomed? This actually affects me because I'm the flex pick on my teams while my teammates are more focused on particular champions. I need to be the one that goes "Oh they're playing adc/supp top (3v3) (PICKS waveclear)", or "oh they're realyl squishy and short ranged (picks Kennen)", or "Oh that champion is reliant on landing skillshots (picks Fizz)"

Oakleaf Ranger5/21/2016, 5:09:32 PM1 votes

hope riot does this, cause this idea sounds amazing

KANYE OBAMA GOD5/21/2016, 5:56:36 PM1 votes

I'm so tempted to vote cause I love voting in polls but, I have to pass on this one.

SunriseSkaterKid5/21/2016, 6:10:34 PM1 votes

I mean, one of the main reasons champ swapping is a thing is so that you don't get fucking face smashed by a team with 5 CC's after you first pick Katarina Mid. It's the same in every league, you swap champs so that you dont get countered hard as hell in a carry position.

JESUSSAYSNO5/21/2016, 6:56:56 PM1 votes

makes drafting more competitive and more of a key aspect. I like the concept, but it would be potentially a bad thing, enforcing a pick/ban metagame in lower elos, where usually it's only a thing in extremely high elo.