Champ swapping is a pain. People forget to trade, forget to change their runes/masteries/summoners, or just plain forget which champs they do and do not have. It's a nightmare to organize a champ swap in solo queue. You should allow us to change the order in which we pick as opposed to the champions which we've picked.
Jeddy01714 votesThe cutest champ in League is our magnificent lord,
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AngelFrost002 votes
Nameless Voice9 votesYup, I always felt they should have done this as part of the new champion select.
On the downside, I that it would mean that whatever team picks first gets countered far more often, since the second team can swap their counterable roles to the end of the list.
Dr Poro7 votesBut that's how they play it in competitive team play. I thought Rito wanted ~~solo ~~dynamic queue to be like LCS
Jet Sett3 votesConfused, poll has two wrong answers, CLEARLY Shyvana is the cutest champ in league right now.
DarkRitual5 votes
is offended by not being included, as the obvious winner in a fair poll.
World Ender2 votesThe thing is, any player can walk their champ into any lane. Swapping roles has no effect on the actual gameplay, while swapping champs does. If I swap my jungle for someone's mid, that has zero effect other than coming to an agreement about roles. But if I need to first pick (insert broken champion here) for the mid laner who is last pick, that has severe impact on how the game could play out. I understand the feeling of wanting to swap roles with someone, but usually if someone agrees to swap then that can actually be done in chat, whereas I can't play someone's champ for them if I pick it.
Roar of Legend5 votesI don't think you read the post correctly. The OP said "pick placement", meaning if you are a Vayne main and doesn't want to first pick due to counter pick, you can give up that first pick spot to the mid lane who really want to secure Ekko, but unfortunately the mid lane doesn't own Vayne so the trading is not possible as a result. He didn't say anything about switching roles, just change the pick order. As a support player, I don't own any assassin or do I own any jungler, so the only people that I can trade with are mage and adc players, which is not always the case, especially when I dont want to first pick because my pick is not common and I can always secure as a last pick.
Nyyx1 votesThe thing is, any player can walk their champ into any lane. Swapping roles has no effect on the actual gameplay, while swapping champs does. If I swap my jungle for someone's mid, that has zero effect other than coming to an agreement about roles. But if I need to first pick (insert broken champion here) for the mid laner who is last pick, that has severe impact on how the game could play out. I understand the feeling of wanting to swap roles with someone, but usually if someone agrees to swap then that can actually be done in chat, whereas I can't play someone's champ for them if I pick it.
They arent talking about roles i dont think. I agree with what you said but i think they meant the order you pick in so that instead of saying "hey pick me ekko cuz i hate babies" you can just switch so you can first pick ekko yourself
Mhihnj2 votesThat poll is the hardest decision i have ever made
RedCyclone2 votesSeems like a decent idea, though with time I can't help but feel there is going to be a mini meta for pick order and that's just going to piss me off
D3m37r12 votesThe last thing i want is for our first pick to be like"LAST PICK OR FEED".
RisenDarkKnight1 votesI honestly thought this said "dick placements" instead of pick placements at first and I was really confused it had so many upvotes. [zombie-brand-facepalm]
rtbf221479701 votesI'd upvote that ;)
Sohleks1 votesThis is actually a really good idea.
It'll make position swapping extremely common in high elo so much so a new norm may be set and pressured upon. But in the hands of cooperative players it's fine. And it roots out the randomness of pick order & roles of the current draft system.
It completely removes the risks of champion swapping.
But it would mean more activity and complexity in champion select on a regular basis. Then again, it can be ignored and it's not a major factor on the game. People will just overreact. Personally I'm fine with letting people be people if the system itself is better. But that's just me. I'm still bias towards non role select draft because I learned to round out my play in all positions over the years.. That would benefit me most..
IDK about others but I actually get bothered how the positions of players in draft is random when playing ranked premade 3v3 or premade 5v5. Why can't we control that in the lobby. Why is it randomed? This actually affects me because I'm the flex pick on my teams while my teammates are more focused on particular champions. I need to be the one that goes "Oh they're playing adc/supp top (3v3) (PICKS waveclear)", or "oh they're realyl squishy and short ranged (picks Kennen)", or "Oh that champion is reliant on landing skillshots (picks Fizz)"
Oakleaf Ranger1 voteshope riot does this, cause this idea sounds amazing
KANYE OBAMA GOD1 votesI'm so tempted to vote cause I love voting in polls but, I have to pass on this one.
SunriseSkaterKid1 votesI mean, one of the main reasons champ swapping is a thing is so that you don't get fucking face smashed by a team with 5 CC's after you first pick 
Mid. It's the same in every league, you swap champs so that you dont get countered hard as hell in a carry position.
JESUSSAYSNO1 votesmakes drafting more competitive and more of a key aspect. I like the concept, but it would be potentially a bad thing, enforcing a pick/ban metagame in lower elos, where usually it's only a thing in extremely high elo.
Snowplosion1 votesThis is a great idea, but LCS and professional leagues would lose so much if this were to be inputted.
Best Valor NA1 votesNot really.. This wouldn't have to affect them at all..
Snowplosion1 votesHow would it not? The entire strategy of picking the strongest champions first, then counter pick last would get thrown out the window.
Troll for Trump1 votesYes, I really hate picking Darius Top only for them to pick Kayle so I get shat on the whole game, and the jgler won't come...
but that would just likely lead to most people going in one certain order, and also gives premades/trolls more opportunities to troll, especially the former, as they can just drag you wherever pick order they want.
redfeenix1 votesVery intersting, but thats only gonna fix a small aspect of the system.
Also I dont approve of selecting roles BEFORE the lobby. In my opinion ranked should be a measure of ALL champs/roles overall not just one.
