Senna "I'm totally a support champion"

Duskdemon·2/29/2020, 9:27:17 PM·1 votes·6,239 views

If Riot really wanted this busted shit to be played as a support, then they need to either just remove her AD ratios from all of her abilities completely, or change her Q so that it only heals if she targets an ally and only damages if she targets an enemy.

Because right now she is sitting with the highest winrate for ADCs at 53% at Plat+ and that's pretty wack for someone who is supposed to be a support champion.

Now granted, the reason she has a higher winrate than is probably because MF has a massively higher pick rate than Senna, but even accounting for that, Senna would still have the second highest win rate. For ADC. As a support.

58 Comments

Done252/29/2020, 9:56:58 PM9 votes

Remove her self heal and she's fixed.

iiGazeii2/29/2020, 9:52:14 PM8 votes

She's a support marksman, the intention of her design is that she can be played both as support and ADC.

Compared to other enchanters, her heals are quite low for their cooldowns and mana costs, and compared to other marksman, her sustained damage is subpar due to her poor synergy with crit and attack speed.

She's not the best of both worlds, she's a lukewarm hybrid. There's other high-damage carry supports and there's other utility-based marksman. Her design is solid. Just because you don't like her doesn't mean she should get gutted.

Sylaelque2/29/2020, 10:14:37 PM8 votes

Playing with support Senna more disgusting, she is taking every kill and giving nothing in back while real ADC actually starving. At least Pyke gives these item 3400 bounties but Senna just taking all kills... What kind of Support needs Lethality items?? To take all the kills for herself? What is the reason of playing with ADC then? Riot's ADC-Support clearly failed at this point. I'd rather see her as ADC than support.

Why support characters in LoL rellies on damage so much now? In Dota 2 not a single support does this. Sona goes top, Veigar plays on support, Swain solo carries all team as support, goes mid, Lux Morgana Yuumi Velkoz Zilean Zyra outdamages ADC while playing as support.

l MrD l3/1/2020, 12:22:07 AM7 votes

Shes a very strong support healing everyone with a single Q thats in range ... an AOE root and a shield for everyone on top of stealthing people which makes her slippery... this alone is fine as a support well not fine ... strong however add in the damage to make her an ADC too and you got an OP broken champ

I remember reading somewhere that theyll force senna into the support role if she cant be played both ADC and support .... i think its safe to say she cannot be both im sick of high damage "supports" being played over traditional supports

LegitBusinessman3/1/2020, 2:38:40 AM6 votes

Lots of butthurt senna abusers showing up here lol

Bardmageddon3/1/2020, 10:02:19 AM5 votes

Honestly the "dropped souls" portion of her passive should just be removed (for both adc and supp).

Not only is double passives a big mistake "cough" Yasuo Ekko Sett "cough". But giving a champion a massive handicap because they are meant to be played in a certain role just proves that Riot is incapable of balancing the game

Many champions Zyra Xerath Velkoz Fiddlesticks can play both their primary role and a supp without needing a handicap, so why does Senna need it?

Evil Natasha3/1/2020, 11:02:39 AM4 votes

I mean... Pyke is supposedly a support too. He's not. He's an assassin with a BS mechanic for sharing gold. The amount of overloaded crap tossed into the kits of the newer champs is stupid as hell.

FakeGravity3/1/2020, 1:49:29 AM4 votes

they just need to make the heal scale with mist and ap, and the damage with ad, then double down on her "i get way less souls when i last hit" she shouldnt be getting damage and healing so easily, and support senna should be more encourage to build the support items for powerful heals

Kenneky2/29/2020, 10:12:14 PM3 votes

And so Is Pyke . How many times we will have this discussion? As the first comment said, she's a jack of all trades - master of none.

Dasdi963/1/2020, 2:39:16 AM3 votes

Funny thing is that they didn't actually nerf senna adc, they just reduced her souls, but know players go 0 cs adc to bypass that mechanic.

Beacon Academy3/1/2020, 3:14:10 AM3 votes

She is a ticking time bomb like Veigar, just the AD equivalent

OWEEELOOKATME3/1/2020, 6:35:12 AM3 votes

Bob: "Hey, Bernie, in the dev environment, Darnell kept getting one shot on Senna by Jeffrey on Rengar/Kha/Swain, they said her kit felt a bit lackluster in terms of peel"

Bernie: ...

Bob: "Uh...Bernie, you're drooling on your keyboard..."

Bernie: wakes up

Bernie: "Uhh...welll, uh, you said one shot. Uh...let me seee here..."

Bernie: "Ahhhh fuck it dude, just give her kit Frodo's invisibility cloak from Lord of the Rings"

Bob: "Dude, fuck LOTR, that's so hardcore. Too hardcore and it's literally in the terms of service no LOTR too op. It's definitely the invisibility cloak from Harry Pottter"

Bernie: "Dude, Idgaf, you're gay, just give her a goddamn invisiblity cloak, goddamnit, Bob"

Random LBGT Casual in the background: "Yeah, goddamnit, Bob."

Jeffrey: -__-

Darnell: ^ )

JRobin313/1/2020, 6:53:23 AM3 votes

The thing is... there's actually a surprising number of people who defend RIOT's creation of Senna as a "support marksman"! I wouldn't mind except that her design as a "support marksman" is so bad! It feels like she's designed by people who don't play support marksmen! Which is crazy! If you're going to design a support marksman you should at least understand how the other support marksmen in this game are played!

Zodshipmed3/1/2020, 8:39:55 AM3 votes

Senna, aphelios and vayne are the top tier top laners, riot is a worthless chinese too with the most dim witted community out there (worse than SC2 community cause that had smart people in it who realized balance is at a 0/10)

Nea1043/1/2020, 9:38:13 AM3 votes

Remember when (some) people disagreed about her being a Pyke 2.0 issue? Where are you now guys? :C

Maybe... hired by this so competent company, who didn't care to make another mistake same as before? :o)

Its Moxie3/1/2020, 9:55:10 AM3 votes

https://youtu.be/UhsTyo4CGd0

Support senna one shot me

thatguysweird962/29/2020, 10:18:24 PM2 votes

She is a great ADC because of her damage, and self heal. She is an alright support early game. When it gets late game she is alot more powerful because of all the assists she has. That's if the ADC did their job. What they can do to keep everyone happy and make people happy is take her heal and make it to were it heals only. She already has great attack range that can make up for the fact she cant damage with her heal.

Predatorator3/1/2020, 10:46:32 AM2 votes

here come the senna apologists lol

iBuild2/29/2020, 11:11:37 PM2 votes

Naw, Senna adc is utter sht right now. They gutted her waaaaay to hard tbh. Cannons don't drop souls if you kill em, your soul drops for killing minions are trash. Without going support you have a hard time getting souls. Enemy has an adc? Well sht you can't out push them.