Thank you riot for nerfing zoe

C90 Sweet Potato·2/22/2018, 9:59:56 PM·5 votes·600 views

Thank you for ruinning a great champion. Some people didnt like her, some hate her, but some of us loved her, but not like this.

Waveclear has became a nightmare. Azir, Lux, Morgana, Syndra and any midlaner in general pressures her as if she was nothing.

I agree on nerfing her one shot potential in mid-late if she is not truly ahead. But goddamit, its being a nightmare to go past laning phase with a positive score.

Zoe is not balanced, she has been nerfed way too hard.

Just my opinion, of course. Its not like I know anything about her.

10 Comments

Onotori2/22/2018, 10:20:55 PM4 votes

She wasn't broken at all before Riot gutted her. It's just assholes who can't be bothered to dodge highly telegraphed skillshots and punish her when her E was down crying to Riot to "fix" a champ that makes them actually think about what they're doing.

The cool thing is, Meddler wants her to lose lane every game, since he doesn't want her to have waveclear at all. So she won't be a viable mid ever, and you'll be forced to play as a shitty poke support.

Vapor Wave Vibes2/22/2018, 10:17:18 PM2 votes

She's gonna get slow buffs, so that she can be in the position that they like

Shahamut2/22/2018, 10:04:23 PM2 votes

I agree with LS that these changes are needed, and that she is VERY under researched atm. She will probably get some of her Q damage back in a patch or 2, but for the most part, these changes are good.

Bent Pixels2/22/2018, 10:37:52 PM2 votes

As a Zoe main, I can say first hand that I have noticed a pretty hefty difference in her farming capabilities. CS was lower for me in my recent games. Zoe is one of the most mechanically difficult champions that I have ever used (mind you, I havent really played a lot of champs, but still). It takes tremendous skill to use her i think. Hitting that e without any minions in the way and then being able to maneuver your q around the minions and trying to get as much distance in between the recast and the target champ and actually hitting the champ is a lot harder than most think. Incorporating the r into a combo makes it even more difficult. people hate zoe because they dont know how to play against her. literally just stay behind minions, stay away from walls, and take cleanse. its foolproof. she got hit really hard in this patch, and i think theyll bring some of her power back later on. im still gonna play her though, even with these nerfs. i just got out of a game midlaning against an akali (yes, an assassin vs zoe) and either the akali was awful or i am just really good with zoe even with the nerfs, but i abused the shit out of akali in that game. got like 11 or 12 kills, around the same number of assists, and 4 or 5 deaths. shes still usable, at least, until i play someone decent. she wasnt broke before the nerfs. people just didnt like being put to sleep lol (TAKE CLEANSE DAMNIT)

Malix Farwin2/22/2018, 11:07:20 PM1 votes

Just to add on admittingly i do not know if its the Zoe changes or that AP itemization just got more expensive for almost everything but deathcap. That on top of the changes could make things worse seeing as the ap item changes were a net loss for her overall early.

Buffs to Zoe should probably somewhere along the lines of lowering the CD of Q so that it is in lane with similar spell CDs with similar damage like Syndra's Q and lowering the mana cost a bit so she can actually farm the lane reliably without doing a ton of damage with her Q.

ReySolomon2/23/2018, 1:15:15 AM1 votes

I would be ok with her q buff but never to bring back the E cd it was too low.

Hexs Fortune2/23/2018, 3:31:22 AM1 votes

One problem champ gets removed from the game for the sake of everyone else. Has happened before.

I for one won't miss her. My experiences with the champ are mostly on the receiving end and mostly negative. I remember being very annoyed, even when winning.