world are done time to nerf the busted champ perma pick ?

tyralie·Nov 10, 2019·36 votes·13,652 views

lee xayah and co almsot in every game because just cancerous time to nerf them to oblivion ? no counterplay they can even miss their combo but still kill you

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Light of MadnessNov 10, 201916 votes

Lets not forget the hook champs we saw 3 in one game =D

Death by GlamourNov 10, 201935 votes

They are just a symptom of a larger problem, you get caught you will die instantly.

Light of MadnessNov 10, 201923 votes

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They are just a symptom of a larger problem, you get caught you will die instantly.

Yeah the damage is the problem.

ŚhunpoNov 11, 20194 votes

Lollipopping.

SuperMachoManNov 10, 201913 votes

you forgot to add yasuo to that list so no one plays him again'

tyralieNov 10, 20195 votes

watched the final it was jsut a free stomp cancer team vs cancer team lee xayah dominated the game hard with their dmg and the other with their hard cc

Daddy AntsNov 10, 20193 votes

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watched the final it was jsut a free stomp cancer team vs cancer team lee xayah dominated the game hard with their dmg and the other with their hard cc

Remember Worlds is 3 patches behind.

Xayah has been nerfed,

Doopliss7Nov 10, 20191 votes

new season makes zeal items cost more, he's getting nerfed that way

JackMcCarryNov 10, 20198 votes

Xayah was nerfed this patch

Sewer SideNov 10, 20194 votes

Xayah and Kai’Sa*

Abibyama IINov 10, 20192 votes

By nerfed he probably means literally deleted from the meta

WoonStruckNov 10, 201912 votes

To be fair, she barely got touched...again.

Kai'Sa also barely got touched...again.

JackMcCarryNov 10, 20195 votes

15% attack speed on her late game W which is her 2nd best ability is not barely touched.

WoonStruckNov 10, 20199 votes

55% Is still a lot of attack speed, and most games are decided by that time anyway. So yes, barely touched.

She needs general nerfs, not just late game nerfs. Same with Kai'Sa...who happened to get a small general nerf that will still affect her far more than Xayah's nerf.

JackMcCarryNov 10, 20192 votes

Well, while it's only been a couple of days since the patch, Xayah shows she not only dropped in her WR %, (from 49.6% to 49.0%), but also dropped in her pickrate (2% drop from 19% to 17%). Yes, these are not huge drops, but it did impact her, she already didnt have the best WR, but now it's further dropped along with her pickrate.

most games are decided by that time anyway.

If most games are decided by the time her W reaches 5th rank, that probably means somoene else snowballed and her impact is minimal anyway, nerfing her late game is nerfing her where she shines the most as a late game hyper carry, i think this was the right call, not to mention, her W was nerfed across all ranks, not just the 5th.

WoonStruckNov 10, 20196 votes

Its only been a couple of days. .6% deviance is nothing for a direct balance change. Look at Vlad's stats between patches when NOTHING has changed recently for him.

2% playrate drop is also nothing post-patch as placebo is a known factor. It will climb again when people realize this change did absolutely nothing to her.

And saying Xayah has low impact is pretty silly.

ßlameMyADCNov 11, 20191 votes

That comment about Vladimir neglects that patches might make other champions more suitable for people who originally picked Vladimir.

Aka Champion X has been buffed therefore hes a better pick than Vlad - Even though there aren't any buffs/nerfs happening to Vladimir here.

BrokenRayquazaNov 10, 20196 votes

15% attack speed late. What you want them to do? Delete her w completely?

WoonStruckNov 10, 20196 votes

You think 15% attack speed late is a lot or something?

What they should do is reduce her W's bonus damage at low ranks at the very least. It already sets up her E's damage/CC...it doesn't necessarily need to do 20% bonus damage at all.

ﬂooNov 10, 20196 votes

She's a marksman who doesnt need to buy attackspeed until 3 items and doesnt have drawbacks like Jhin Graves Tristana or now Senna. Her W AS is too high.

RyzeReworkNov 11, 20191 votes

Tristana q is better?

ﬂooNov 11, 20191 votes

On lvl 1 Xayah W gives 35% as, Tristana Q 30% Later on obviously better, but Xayah also gains ms, on attack damage and potential buff to Rakan.

RyzeReworkNov 11, 20191 votes

She also has Lower range than tristana. The only reason shes better competitively is because she is safer but in solo que that shit doesnt matter

ﬂooNov 11, 20191 votes

Hard to say. Xayah's ult gives her a lot of breathing room. It doesn't have a wind-up like Trist's W and she's untargetable, as well as preparing feathers. I'd say she's fairly stronger, because her CC is also better than Trist's, she gains ms in fight and has actual AD scalings. Would pick a good Xayah over a good Trist any day.

Hi im 12Nov 11, 20191 votes

when someone hits you with "oh shes safer than the champion with 2 screen wide dashes and a lee sin kick" lmao

Anime FizzNov 10, 20198 votes

Funny that you dont mention Ryze, Vlad and others.

Why am i not suprised boards always protect their broken mages.

ﬂooNov 10, 20198 votes

Ryze is probably one of the hardest hitting champs out there atm. With mana items only, early to late. He went from op in pro shit in casual to ridiculous damage in both.

JenivieNov 11, 20197 votes

Genuinely sick of seeing Ekko in every game, and getting one shot by him every game. I'm going to start prioritizing in banning him over lee or yasuo, champ makes games unbearable and idk why. I remember when ekko was a unique pick where the players were actually good, now it seems like ANYONE can play him in jg specifically and do well

ZardoNov 10, 20194 votes

xayah already got nerfed after worlds patch.

preternaturalNov 10, 20194 votes

boards was bitching about assassins all season and they ended up being a non factor at worlds. TYPICAL

Ionian VulpixNov 10, 201912 votes

Assassins are SoloQ champs. When a team actually practices and communicates together, they're far less likely to get killed by a roaming Zed.

And wasn't Akali used a lot?

Chembaron YamadaNov 11, 20199 votes

Akali, Qiyana, Pyke.... So yeah, I wouldn't say that assassins have been a non-factor.

RyzeReworkNov 11, 20191 votes

I mean you can put pyke there but all he did was feed lol

Daddy AntsNov 16, 20191 votes

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boards was bitching about assassins all season and they ended up being a non factor at worlds. TYPICAL

Hello Akali.

Hello Qiyana.

Non factor btw

preternaturalNov 16, 20191 votes

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Hello Akali.

Hello Qiyana.

yes they really came out huge in the finals.

MahohNov 11, 20192 votes

So tired of Lee. Please make him go away for a few seasons.

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haha nerf lee when in solo Q he doesnt even have a 50% wr xD

Super strong champ attracts all the big mouths that make their teams throw to punish them for being so proud.