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What can be done about Annie?

OlTrustyPatches··2 votes·789 views

Holy fuck this cancer champ, no outplay, stupid burst, zero skillshots, retard easy laning, holy shit riot, nerf this cancer!!!1!!!1

Goes out and has a cigarette

Okay... sorry about that. Hear me out here: Tibbers needs some kind of a cast time. being able to drop an insta-stun nuke, at a pretty damn good range, with no warning or outplay potential is just ridiculous. Now, i know what you are going to say:

  • "If they give tibbers cast time, then she will just stun you then drop da bear." -Yes, exactly. The way i look at it, as a squishy carry it is your own damn fault if you get stunned by her w for being so close to her, her q (even if that range is absolutely stupid for a point and click ability) has a small window of cast time, and travel time that will let you flash or blink out of the way of the rest of her abilites. There is some counterplay there. Getting insta-gibbed by a bear out of fucking nowhere, has little to no counterplay.

  • "Just buy a qss/Banshees/zhonyas/abyssal."

    1. qss cant cleanse a one shot, even mediocre annie players can get three spells and an ignite off in less then a second.
    2. Being able to accurately predict when tibbers comes to be able to zhonyas is something 99% of the community cant reliably do. (I know... I know... get gud)

What do you all think? do i just suck?

10 Comments

ArrowSinger1 votes

Tibbers only has a stun IF it is stacked up to stun, therefore you do have a warning the bar above her is at 3 then she will E, R to stun burst you. And it is a SHORT range thats why you play range to counter her completely. She can not get to you with out a dash or flash with tibbers which is why IF YOU CAN DIE FROM TIBBERS DO NOT GO ANYWHERE WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE ANNIE IS. LOL XD this is meant to be helpfull.

Defended1 votes

I love when people try to justify annie being a total bullshit champion just like the guy above me just did.

''oh annie has counterplay!'' - said nobody ever.

Even in my elo, plat 3 which isnt the highest, people still complain about annie here. Because really she is not a fair champion. She is 5x more brain dead than caitlyn is and i main caitlyn so.

Tormentula1 votes

As much as I hate annie suddenly bursting you down with no skill, its undenyable the champ is easily punishable. Yes she can insta kill you but only if you're in range, meaning if she flashes on you, she can be jumped on or ganked easily afterward, or just in general she's immobile and easy to camp.

Honestly, whenever I hear somebody complain about annie's sudden click and win, all I can think of is why the hell everybody is ignoring Amumu Malphite Orianna for that matter. I don't find what annie does much different from these who literally can instashot or instawin teamfights. Ori I'll respect as she takes a lot of skill but in the right hands she's no different, an annie with skill.

fluxanna1 votes

Ori ult is only hittable if the sphere is near you. At the minimum you have the ability to flash out.

The same goes for malphite and amumu. And amumu's Q-R combo does not oneshot you, although I will be fair to note that he rarely 1v1's people.

Read my reply a-la why Annie is scary in lane. And what do you mean "yes she can insta kill you but only if you're in range, meaning if she flashes on you, she can be jumped on or ganked easily afterward"? If she instakills you, you are dead, therefore you cannot jump on her.

You can literally not take a single CS as Annie and just flash ult people for gold. One kill every 5 minutes is pretty good. If your ult is down as Annie you may actually be able to just sit in base and wait for your flash to come back up, then walk back to lane to flash ult a kill.

Tormentula1 votes

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And what do you mean "yes she can insta kill you but only if you're in range, meaning if she flashes on you, she can be jumped on or ganked easily afterward"? If she instakills you, you are dead, therefore you cannot jump on her.

You're dead, but the moment you come back into lane there is a no flash, possible no ignite annie with her ult down you can just go ham on or she can be revenge killed by the jg. Her killing somebody always puts her in a vurnable position and has drawbacks. Its easy to go 1 for 1 against an annie especially if you're a ranged champ with distance (if you're an assassin you most likely can jump her level 3)

She's in general an immobile champ, ask the jg to camp her and either one of you will get fed.

The only concern with annie is her enraged tibbers when she dies. That is what needs nerfed majorly.

fluxanna1 votes

Um

I play lux midlane into her and she literally ignores the minions and just pushes me to tower. Not even fizz does that. Fizz still has to respect the minion wave, but Annie can solo just push me back tower.

I have to poke her from absolute max range because Annie can flash ult me and I die instantly. So if I get close enough to hit spells accurately it puts me within flash ult range, which will cause me to die instantly, although I could get a first item QSS in lane.

I had a few games recently where I laned against Annie's. I zoned them pre-6, however post-6, my annies leave their stun up permanently. This means I cannot get within flash-ult range. Otherwise I will die every 5 minutes. They actually just sit right outside my turret range and taunt me.

Jungler ganks can't save my lane.

Annie support should be meta.

ThugWalrus1 votes

step 1) main Galio

Step 2) ???

Step 3) freelo

TyroneWatermelon1 votes

Yes,she is cancer zero skill requirement,but Banshees still counter her hard

Papa Slothy1 votes

I think her stun stacks should slowly decay

Raja Chachki1 votes

I honestly don't mind her Tibbers cast, if anything they could just add like a weird half-second voodoo dance as her bear comes alive. What really gets me is that Tibbers regens health super fast, and if you kill Annie while he's up, he goes into insane mode and tries to kill you. Like, I just killed Annie while her stupid bear is alive, that takes some work, and now I'm punished and she gets vengeance? Her bear is too tanky to fight at early levels, and it's honestly a much better Sion passive.

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