do riot even use a formula for ranked...???

Medúsa··3 votes·1,111 views

i was about to be in promos for gold 4 when preseason ended, i go 5-5 and get bronze 1, my friend finished silver 4 and gets placed silver 3 going 3-7?????? what is this dumb formula they use, id love to see how it works

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GreenWithEnvee3 votes

You actually think Riot knows what theyre doing ? LMFAO

Medúsa2 votes

of course not, otherwise i wouldn't be making this post..?

BewareTheIdes3 votes

You want clients that work, a reform system that isn't about money, all the champs unlocked from the start, community created skins and content, voice chat?

Well you just described Dota 2 and league maybe when it gets it's shit together(which isn't very likely, since they let a silver design the plants that are stupid af)

R0XTAR1 votes

REFERENCE PLZ:

op.gg

use it please. its called MMR for a reason. your REAL MMR could be very different and just because you're on a single winning streak in placements does not warrant an "I'm God Tier, Make Me Gold!!" sign on your forehead.

For example, in the last two weeks I climbed 3 divisions right before the reset. Grinding Ekko seems to do good for me and I almost never lose with him now. I'm not on a single winning streak. I've proven to Riot and my MMR reflects that I am not just a Bronze 5 player. It's not a simple algorithm, Riot takes time into this and it will be different for EVERY player.

Not a lot of people seem to even notice or care about that.

Now, I'm not just egging on you about this, its the whole community that thinks they should be placed somewhere that they don't belong. How would you feel if you were bronze material getting placed in with golds and then getting shit on because your skill level doesn't reflect your placement? THAT is the reason for being placed slightly lower. Prove you belong somewhere, and it is way more rewarding to earn your way to the spot.

Medúsa1 votes

i was silver 3 about a week ago and won roughly 42/50 games and hit gold in pre season almost all hard carries on adc, so idk why you come in assuming all this, i was also gold 3 and deranked after a break, and the easiest way to determine mmr is by your win/loss lp gain/loss if you are gaining 19 and losing 19 you are where you belong, like right now at bronze 1 im gaining 29lp because my mmr is gold lol, please learn your facts before just posting the know it all comments that are negative and assuming no one knows anything

CarbonFighter1 votes

You finished the actual season in Silver 3... mind posting that information in your thread for everybody to see? The preseason rank you just stated doesn't mean anything

Medúsa1 votes

they actually stated that your pre season mmr is the mmr that gets used

Sanctimonious1 votes

People almost always drop 1-2 tiers. It's completely natural.

Medúsa1 votes

yeah i was expecting gold 5 to be placed low silver not in bronze... 5-5 isnt even that bad

Oleandervine1 votes

Riot announced that they would be soft resetting MMR and rank. Read the news. They explicitly stated that everyone would start considerably lower once they finished promos. This is their way of rectifying the abysmal boosted MMR that severely skewed everything last season. Now you have to actually earn your keep in Season 7.

Medúsa1 votes

sounds stupid to me because i actually earned it, why put me through the tortue of trolls again to get back to gold, my first game i had a kindred support, his duo partner vouched and said hes great at off meta champs.

Talisid1 votes

Your placement gains and losses depend more on the MMR of the opponents you face than your Win/Loss ratio.

Medúsa1 votes

this is not true i played all gold elo players i checked every game, and every game everyone finished gold

ADC Is Trash1 votes

Sorry I am a few months late, I love reading old forum posts and his one had caught my attention. So first thing to note is that your MMR greatly impacts where you place after placements, even though they don't say it, your season MMR and your preseason MMR both factor into your post promos elo. However, the system does not look at just you end of season MMR, it looks at the season_as a whole_. Here is the formula I think they use: EndSeasonMMR+PreSeasonMMR/BeginningNewSeasonMMR X PlacentGamesMMR This is supposed to be a reflective start zone, but this isn't always the case; those numbers are predetermined by the system, and pulls the number coordinating to your placement matches, and how well you performed in said placement matches. 10 games gives you an MMR multiplier to be used at the end of your coordination set, this isn't always a whole number its usualy less than 1. And that's total bs, but that's not all.

If this was your friends first season playing ranked, they will be placed above you. On my smurf account, (the one posting this) I went 7/3 in placements, and was in B1 last season, because of the formula, even though I carried, I was placed into B5. My first season friend, went 4/6, and got Silver 3. What flames, and trolls don't understand, is that your season career, sticks with you for almost 2 years. But, there is always dawn after darkness.

Your personal MMR is being compared to your elo and division's MMR at end game, so if you have a gold MMR playing in Bronze, then if you win and have gold performance you will earn more LP than usual, keep in mind the system is designed to reward underdogs and will not give as much LP to those who were along for the ride. But, the reward is minimal, this is why we have solo queue back.

I hope this helped someone, and if any of the information I have proposed is incorrect, please correct me, I am only human

Medúsa1 votes

they did a soft reset to get rid of all the boosted accounts, there was a post on it, everyone gold+ was dropped 1-2 tiers

ADC Is Trash1 votes

But not bricky, who dropped from Diamond 2, all the way down to silver 5.

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