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Please riot ............ATLEAST LOOK AT THIS

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Hello everyone . I have a idea ....imagine if u could not only play ranked with champs that u own !! BUT U CAN DO THIS IF U HAVE ATLEAST A CERTAIN GAME OR MASTERY COUNT ....i mean imagine if somone takes 1st time urgot jungle and feeds so mizrebly and flames cuz he is boored and 1st time is his excuse (doesnt happen always ofc.) But still i would like and i belive everyone in legue of legends would love to know that your team mate didnt pick a champion that he/she hasnt played ever in his/her life in ranked . Soo my idea was , that if u want to play a champ in ranked u need to have 10 games or less/more depends on what ppl think or u think is normal or a 3rd mastery (would acualy make more use of the "nolifer badge than just a think ur team sees in ur loading border), but there , i think needs to be a thing that they shouldnt be able to buy champ and play him cuz he seen him good in lcs and wanted to play in ranked . This would prevent smurfing also and make the game a bit more chalanging + fair .....This is just an idea so ....^^ pls coment ur oppinion if u think this is a good or a completely redicilous idea .Jinx

29 Comments

McAnnex2 votes

I like this a lot. It doesn't take much to gain mastery level 5 on a champion and it would be nice for the integrity of the game in general.

The only con, which is smurf accounts could be remedied by linking accounts which is something a lot of people already want to happen.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

It doesn't take much to gain mastery level 5 on a champion

You know you'd need 16 champions at rank 5 to play Ranked, right?

Urgonnalearn2day1 votes

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You know you'd need 16 champions at rank 5 to play Ranked, right?

Yeah that's why this idea is painfully bad.

McAnnex1 votes

Wrong, actually. It would be a ranked only restriction so that people are only playing a competitive match which champions they have a very basic level of mastery for. Doing otherwise lowers the quality of competitive matches and gives one team an effective handicap, with a potential 4x multiplier... it's part of why ranked is a bad experience for a lot of players. If you want to play champions you have no basic mastery of, the place to do that is normals, not ranked.

Having to master 16 of 130 champs is a reasonable baseline for entry into ranked as it ensures have a reasonable depth of game knowledge/experience.

St0rmln1 votes

Maybe you don't need rank 5 then. But whats worse is when players buy the cheapest 16 champions and jump into rank with no experience on any of them. plus the time it takes to purchase 16 champions, (if they aren't the cheapest ones) gives you plenty of time to get a good bit of mastery on a few of them.

McAnnex1 votes

You know we're talking about Ranked, right? You know, the home of competitive play... go play normals if you want to play champs you haven't mastered. :)

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

How many champions do you think the average Ranked player has at level 5?

How many do you have at 5?

McAnnex1 votes

I don't know the answer to either of those questions, but I'm in favor of making competitive league actually meaningful instead of a cesspool of first time Yasuo players. :)

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Don't mistake me, I am not completely dismissing the entire concept. I believe there is a sweet spot to be had; just not level 5 on 16 champions.

I don't know the answer to either of those questions

You could tell me how many you have at 5 lol. I have 3, but I literally only use 1 of them for 98% of my Ranked games.

McAnnex1 votes

I'm not logged into the game and I'm not at home. :) I would be surprised if I don't have 16.

Itadaki Seieki1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E7UEFzhE,comment-id=0001000000010001,timestamp=2016-02-19T17:31:40.264+0000)

How many champions do you think the average Ranked player has at level 5?

How many do you have at 5?

..

I imagine you have like, your top 3 Mastered as River Spirit Nami, Koi Nami and Urf the Nami-tee.

I have four, well. I WOULD HAVE FIVE BUT RIOT TROLLED ME. Bard, Corki, Veigar, Thresh, Sona in that order.

McAnnex1 votes

I have at least 13. Now I'm super curious to count them!

Spaceman5pff1 votes

HERE IT IS BOYS! The unwarranted toxicity that I always said would be born of the champ mastery system!

McAnnex1 votes

Who's being toxic?

Myrmiron1 votes

No because I have 4 accounts, so this would suck for me and people like me.

McAnnex1 votes

A good point, but if Riot linked accounts then it would fix this issue.

Malhammers1 votes

You realize a large portion of the player base are adults with a full time job, kids, family, responsibilities, etc? And for those players, like me, I am lucky if I get 1 game/day in during the week and maybe an 2-3 hours on the weekends. That would mean it would take me like 2-3 weeks just to be able to play ranked with a single champion.

Sorry, but no thank you.

McAnnex2 votes

Well, not to be harsh... but you are the kind of person that makes ranked a bad experience for others (at times). You rarely play and you play champs you haven't mastered. You are free to do that, but I don't think it's good for anyone and degrades the quality of competitive league. If you have so little time for the game, I don't understand the allure of competitive play to begin with. You play a casual amount... competitively... I don't get it.

Ruin Lance1 votes

you don't have to MASTER a champion to play ranked with them. just know what you're doing with them.

McAnnex1 votes

Solid players can play unfamiliar champions without tier 5 mastery without feeding, but usually people on unfamiliar champions play worse. I have almost 400k mastery on my main and I still learn things about how my kit interacts with a certain part of the map or an enemy/ally champion... a minimum of level 5 just seems very reasonable to me in light of that.

Ruin Lance1 votes

interesting that you mention that, i'm just about to hit 400k with yas. i still have a lot of room to improve as well and yeah, you're right, they will perform worse. but i don't think you need tier 5 with a champion to be "familiar" with them, unless we're talking about lee sin, or azir maybe.

McAnnex1 votes

I'm a Zyra main. :) Yasuo... gah. lol

You can definitely get a feel for a champion in a few games, I just think ranked would be a more respectable system if everyone had to qualify for it in some way. Banned players can buy a level 30 account for $20 and be playing ranked in no time... if we implemented this system, then it would have the side effect of purifying ranked in that way as well.

Malhammers2 votes

{quoted}

Well, not to be harsh... but you are the kind of person that makes ranked a bad experience for others (at times). You rarely play and you play champs you haven't mastered. You are free to do that, but I don't think it's good for anyone and degrades the quality of competitive league. If you have so little time for the game, I don't understand the allure of competitive play to begin with. You play a casual amount... competitively... I don't get it.

You think Bronze-Gold is competitive? Sorry...but no. Bronze-Gold is to "ranked" as Unranked is to Bronze-Gold. Ill let you think about that one for a second.

McAnnex1 votes

You're making my point for me. Those are ranked tiers of competitive league by definition, so yes I consider them competitive. Rewards begin at Gold for a reason also. Bronze and Silver are the lowest levels of competitive league, but maybe if we required people to actually master champions before playing ranked then Bronze wouldn't be treated like scum due to the quality of matches being fundamentally better.

St0rmln1 votes

I am in the same boat. With possibly less game time than that. But i still love this idea. He isn't saying you can't play, just not ranked until you have some mastery with the champion you like.

St0rmln1 votes

I hope Riot sees this. solves a lot of issues.

Shahamut1 votes

And if you 16 champs are for your main role? What if you get your secondary? Fill wouldn't be a viable option. To be flexible in ranked you would need to have mastery in 7 champs in your 2 main position and 7 more for support. :-P

Edit: you could shorten the list by only playing champs that fill multiple roles, but what if those aren't your fav champs? You also won't be able to choose optimally for your team.

Chibi Templar1 votes

This all sounds like a bronze issue. I've been playing some of my roster since season 1 and I've never actually put the effort into maxing out anybody else other than Trist or Poppy since riot decided to add that silly mastery system. And they were only "mastered" because I actively played them in ranked in the last 2 sessions

I have a nice pool of heroes I like to use, and I'm not interested in grinding mastery points just so I can play a hero I've been using since 2011. If anybody is a "problem" it's you.

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