revert malzahar (and aurelion sol) I

Βig Βoss ·11/15/2019, 9:22:06 AM·10 votes·5,736 views

Imo malzahar need a revert or buffs. early game pre 6lv is awful. even after 6. malzahar cant all in 100-0 no one. this dude dont have dmg. Pre rework a lot of matchup's that were in favor for malz. now are he is in disadvantaged. All those shitasu and zedos.. malza just delete them from the game. and now? he cant do shit. Plz riot revert him. malza dont need spell shild, dont need usless W that 90% of other champs can kill with 1 aoe spell. and the worst thing is how E works now. all dmg is guted and give instead a refresh every time he Q or R. to get full potential of E you need to be 8 sec in combat... 8 dot. what a great idea. and you need Rylai's Crystal Scepter always otherwise your voidlings will never catchup with enemy champion.

Right now he is just a ult bot that need ally kill target..

ANd big thanks for rework ASol. what a great work....

13 Comments

SiG DxD11/15/2019, 4:46:18 PM6 votes

i liked old malzahar way way better

xelaker11/15/2019, 4:01:43 PM2 votes

oh no a champ that can't 100-0 someone at lvl 2! Change him!!!!!

Godlzahar11/16/2019, 2:34:41 AM2 votes

YES PLEASE. I main malzahar and enough is enough. Just revert him old malzahar was so much better and more fun. And was so fun to play him ad too. Just revert him pre rework or revert the nerfs on minion speed!

My biggest problem is the speed of the minions, they are slow as fuck and they die easy as hell now. Revert the nerf you did on their speed at least.

Rıots Bad Client11/16/2019, 3:44:15 AM2 votes

I will say, I really liked the old malz better. Its where all my games were on. They sorta ruined the fun of space aids. Now its just some baby's first sneeze damage that makes me sad.

but I remember, a lot of people were asking him to be changed in some way. People didn't like playing against him, he was a very counteractive lane.

So they nerfed his E damage, made his passive in to a spell, moved old W to his R to keep the "Tank melting portions" intact(Which they failed to do imo) so, pretty much. Malze is the same he always was.... just they took the wow factor from his E and put it on his Minions, which are a larger part of his kit, and now holds a larger portion of his damage

...

Which they nerfed a couple of times.

Pandemic Punch11/16/2019, 5:56:46 AM2 votes

I miss Malzahar's old W. It did so much damn damage and was a great zoning tool that made him feel way more like a control mage.

Afk on Lane11/15/2019, 11:05:04 AM2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Βig Βoss ,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E7NnUnu8,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-15T09:22:06.455+0000) malza dont need spell shild

I think the main reason he get reworked, was him being vurnable while he was ulting someone, his ult without a spellshield was so easy to interrupt in teamfights that his R became useless, while u were ulting someone u were dead unless u used zhnoya. It was better just to press q w e in a teamfight, eventually if u were in a good position or 1v1 u could combo with R. Right now even if his dmg is nerfed his spellshield grant him almost free R on somebody in teamfight, and unless this person dont have QSS, he is usually dead.

He had way more dmg, and way better aoe dmg. His W was great teamfight tool, I enjoyed playing him and he felt more a mage than now for me. If he had spellshield before, he would be too op, unless riot would change his ult, to be cleaned by summoner 1 .

Or riot would have to change his ult into new ability, but i have no idea what it would look like. His R wasn't just composing to his whole kit as a mage, but instead of changing R into something diffrent, riot composed his all abilities to his R now. From aoe mage, to a more single target mage.

And about sol, i think no one likes him anymore, after rework, people are ranting about him so he will get changed for sure :D, but for malz I don't think so anything new will happen soon.

5050BS11/16/2019, 5:49:05 AM2 votes

I do miss playing AD Malz Junlge. Was sooo fun!

Hemulen Magi11/16/2019, 4:47:16 AM1 votes

I think that instead of a straight revert, they should both be mini re-reworked, which could include reverting some aspects. I think could be tuned more towards DOTs and DPS. His voidlings could have their health scale with mana, get their AD scaling returned, get attack speed scaling (causing them to frenzy quicker), and could deal 1/3rd of Malzahar's on-hit damage. This would let Malzahar build like: item 3042 item 3115 item 3157 item 3124 item 3148 He could trade his shield passive for this new power. His burst would be reduced by the change in his build encouraged by his altered scaling. His new passive could ramp-up his DOT and voidling DPS on a target over long fights.