Are supports being left behind? :/

AurixosBlackmist··3 votes·575 views

Hello everybody i was thinking about supporting lately ( as support main i do it quite often) and i got feeling that riot kind of shifted everything about supports in the background. Last pure support champion was Bard if i recall correctly (and that was a while ago), every other class is getting reworked or something for them and we got only 2 new items in the season 7. :( What are your thoughts about this topic guys? Any opinion welcomed. Blitzcrank

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Leo10241 votes

yeah riot really needs to release a new support already, it's been forever and support is easily the most neglected role in terms of balance and gameplay as well as popularity

if riot really wants to see an increase in support players, make a new champion! i don't see why sy haven't done it yet, if they've acknowledged the problem, why not take the obvious solution to fix it

SilverPetal1011 votes

i agree

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

And one of those new items is busted as hell.

Not that that's a good way of shifting power to supports, of course.

Geauxx1 votes

No, Depending on who you pick, Support is arguably one of the stronger roles at the moment. The 2 new items demand respect considering they are built mainly by supports and a few junglers, maybe a couple toplaners.

^ Now that's only if you mainly went utility support.

Let's move on to damage supports... God didn't prep the world for brand support. The world is still in ruins.

Now tank supports... Tank supports might be your only actual argument in this, i would agree most tank supports are far behind even with courage of colossus. aka braum as in it takes alot for him to get that off, along with being target practice for the ranged champions until your team decides to follow up.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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No, Depending on who you pick, Support is arguably one of the stronger roles at the moment. The 2 new items demand respect considering they are built mainly by supports and a few junglers, maybe a couple toplaners.

^ Now that's only if you mainly went utility support.

Let's move on to damage supports... God didn't prep the world for brand support. The world is still in ruins.

Now tank supports... Tank supports might be your only actual argument in this, i would agree most tank supports are far behind even with courage of colossus. aka braum as in it takes alot for him to get that off, along with being target practice for the ranged champions until your team decides to follow up.

Braums guaranteed CC is strong enough, as well as his shield. And his ult and W make him a great dive buddy :D

Erockandroll1 votes

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No, Depending on who you pick, Support is arguably one of the stronger roles at the moment. The 2 new items demand respect considering they are built mainly by supports and a few junglers, maybe a couple toplaners.

^ Now that's only if you mainly went utility support.

Let's move on to damage supports... God didn't prep the world for brand support. The world is still in ruins.

Now tank supports... Tank supports might be your only actual argument in this, i would agree most tank supports are far behind even with courage of colossus. aka braum as in it takes alot for him to get that off, along with being target practice for the ranged champions until your team decides to follow up.

As a support main, I would agree that tank supports have kinda been left behind.

Riot finally found a fix to the problem of enchanters having little late game in their enchantments, because they couldn't afford AP. (A lot of options for that actually, some are on the side of OP)

Mage supports seem to be a fickle case, considering that what mainly allows them to work is how their kit works. Brand and Zyra, have enough CC to fill the support role, and get enough damage buying really cheap items.

The thing I see with tank supports is, their is about 3 kinds, wardens (Taric, Braum), pick supports (Blitz, threash), and vanguards (leona). A lot of players may not make such a distinction between tank supports, but I feel like it's enough that you wouldn't build each kind the same.

So Far Riot is kinda figuring out wardens with things like Knight's vow and Bond of Stone. And with the Exception of Leona, most Vanguards find their place out side the support role.

Pick supports like Thresh I think are a bit harder to support system wise, mainly because they are fairly item independent. (Being focused on individual picks, thresh isn't really going to tank because he's engaging, [vanguard] nor because he's soaking damage for his ally. [warden] So thresh doesn't really depend on tanky stats, it merely helps.)

xWaters1 votes

I want a new support champion too.

rtbf2216514121 votes

Last 'support'. Too many supports are better than Bard in my opinion.

L0ve Is Blue1 votes

Why make more support champs when they all are active slaves

tell me the last time you played a game with a support not buying item 3107 item 3190 item 3222

Xeruon1 votes

Supports aren't defined by what they are anymore, it only matters what they build. item 3107 item 3190 item 3222

These three items basically make any other support items except sightstone and the evolutions of the the starter items pretty pointless.

SilverPetal1011 votes

That is true but the skill set matters too. You can get a full poke support like Zyra or a mostly healing support likeSoraka

It depends on team comp.

chipndip11 votes

Yes. Duh. Why make a champ no one will play? Why make a champ that does the same shit?

"We made a new champ that shields, and heals, and hard ccs the opponent!"

You can only do that so many times.

SilverPetal1011 votes

I am a support main as well. I think that right now, the meta does not include any changes to the supports. The supports could use a new champion to make things more interesting, but currently no reworks are needed.

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