Heal reduce item for AD champions

TheScarface90·1/6/2015, 7:54:25 AM·4 votes·6,697 views

I think that ad champions need to have heal reducion item liek ap champions. I understand why you remove before item but you need to back some. Now is imbalanced. Will be great to have passive reduce heal when target below 60% in hit or every hit but only when you hit him. Now champions like mundo, swain, volibear and more.. are too op. Think for this

27 Comments

Cale0171/6/2015, 7:59:53 AM2 votes

Chances are that the ones doing enough damage to drop you to that point are the ones that also probably aren't going to let you walk away anyways. ADCs, melee assassins, or duelists don't care if they reduce your ability to heal when they only need a few more auto attacks or another spell cast to finish you off anyways. Tanks shouldn't be main sources of damage, so adding in the ability to apply a Grievous Wounds style passive is a bit senseless as their damage is only meant to be supplementary, to add up over time, not to directly lead to someone's death unless you LET them just sit there and tear into you.

Lookin' at you, Devourer Volibear.

MPendragon1/6/2015, 8:04:21 AM2 votes

He's right, AD champions do need Grievous Wounds back, it's very unbalanced.

Mages have Morello's, Bruisers need Executioner's Blade back. It's rather difficult to counter an ADC (top, bot, mid, or jungle) without being able to half their lifesteal. They will spiral out of control, and without a counter to them being able to regenerate their HP reliably, i.e. without requiring to have ignite on every player, it creates an imbalance.

TheScarface901/6/2015, 8:08:25 AM1 votes

I understand but sometimes you play ad champion vs lane liek mundo. Late game he have so much sustain and just sitting and healing. Adc or assasins have to be so fed to be possible to killed him. Its great if have some item to reduce healing. This item will have passive to reduce healing with 50 % and will give low ad or attack speed and passive cna be changed to be posiible under 50% . This will remove op healing on tanky champions to stay in all teamfight and dont scared that can be killed from someone beause they have healing passives. Swain just go in and dont care. If ap carry dont build the item which reduce healing its impossible to stop them. Its important to have ad item to reduce healing can be active not passive with 60 sec cd like dead fire grasp. This item will be not op because you dont have enought place for items. If you buidl this you have to remove someone. Id adc or assasins build it they will have less dmg or will have no defensive item. Its balanced.

TheScarface901/6/2015, 8:39:38 AM1 votes

This is not true like you said because if ap carry is idiot or they burt him he cant stop the heal of noone. I was playing in this team swain mid, nami bot, mundo top and ww jungle! how to kill someone lategame? Mundo is hyper tank go in all hit hit hit he just ult and run. Swain go in and put zonya and countinie haling after zonya he is on full health and what you can to do ? WW i dont think is need to talk here. Swain have no cd on ull, mundo ult have low cd. Why dont do the item liek The Black Cleaver? Even is possible to be with the same passive just not for armor and replace with heal reduce. Will be so good if this items stack like The Black Cleaver. It have to many champins with tons of sustain you do new items for healing but dont do them counters. How to counter them ? with dmg ? dmg doesnt help because healing is highter than damage taken !

MPendragon1/6/2015, 8:44:10 AM1 votes

Mundo, Nasus, Zed, Riven, Rek-Sai.

Champions which are relatively hard to shut down without Grievous Wounds.

TheScarface901/6/2015, 8:51:30 AM1 votes

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ If have an item who stack liek The Black Cleaver will be nice i think +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ What do you think ?

Nubeel1/6/2015, 9:31:51 AM1 votes

There used to be one Called Executioners Calling. No Idea why Riot got rid of it last patch but it used to give 25 AD, 25% crit chance and instantly apply Grievous Wounds for 1.5 seconds.

I assume that they got rid of it because it was fairly shitty for what it cost but it was the only item other than the Morellonomicon to apply Grievous Wounds.

I hope their removal of it means they're working on a new item that people might actually buy.

Rebonack1/6/2015, 9:10:19 PM1 votes

Well how about we have some fun with it?

item 3144+item 3122+item 3086+Combine = Executioner's Calling

Grants AD, IAS, Crit Chance, and Lifesteal. Unique active: slows, damages, and applies Grievous Wounds. CRITICAL AUGMENT: Crits cause the target to bleed for (percentage of bonus AD) over three seconds and apply Grievous Wounds.

And to keep it from being dumb, we would make Infinity Edge's passive also named CRITICAL AUGMENT to keep them from stacking with each other.

cZair1/6/2015, 10:47:27 PM1 votes

I say no to this because this will just make ADC even more crazy making it harder for tanks and bruisers. That depend on there healing.

TheScarface901/7/2015, 3:10:42 AM1 votes

will be great to have item who give 25 attack damage, 10% cooldown reduction and passive: dealing physical damage to an enemy champion reduce their healing by 10% for 2 seconds (stack up to 5 times, up to 50%). This item will build from the brutalizer - 1337 gold and then build new item and will cost 1800 gold