Brand

GandalfTheBlue··2 votes·1,461 views

Has anybody noticed lately, that brand is, how should I say this, secretly op. For his skill set not being tremendously complicated (and I don't want to talk about some hit boxes), the champion deals a lot of damage (even with the spells he can't miss). Sum that up and the way the items he builds compliment his kit, it makes him a really unbalanced champion.

Well that's my opinion. Thoughts?

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Tulare3 votes

I've noticed that he's secretly OP. He and Zyra are basically permabans for my bot lane partner and me.

Death by Glamour3 votes

its not really a secret

Poske3 votes

He is not / thread

Take a look at syndra then take a loot at brand

Syndra wins in

Range Mobility (she can move while casting) Range Pick off potentional (Something Brand doesnt have at all) Spammability (Shorter cooldowns) Burst (She can make it so that all her abilities land in about the same time) AOE (Every mage does AoE damage this is why Brand spread the damage niche doesnt work, its so easy to outclass that) Level 1 throw a buff cheese Scuttle control CC (By alot) Escaping well her E is quite reliable knockback at worst while brand needs to hit 2 abilities to stun Singletargeted burst (Does brand even have that??? Nope) Reliability (how easy her abilities are to land overall easier then brands)

The only thing brand had over other supports was Spellthief synergy. That is how he survived in a lane he wasnt designed for after being outclassed by roughly 5 mid mages.

But now that spellthief synergy is gone???? And thats where the brand story ends. He now roughly gains 1000 gold less per game

Challenger players play Taliyah support over brand for example. It didnt catch on yet to low Elo but oh well Zyra, Velkoz, zilean are all better Brands (Infact Zilean is OP, wierd champ he enhances OP champs...)

The whole pillar of flame poke can be outclassed by Soraka E max

0 Hogapu1 votes

brand doesn't have the mana issues syndra has syndra doesn't have the aoe damage brand has syndra's e has a way longer cooldown than brand's q, not making her that safe brand level's 6 is much stronger than syndra's in a 2v2 scenario syndra doesn't have a passive pre 9, brand's makes his poke brand has a way better sinergy with rilay + liandry than syndra and will always outdamage syndra because of this

but what's the point of comparing syndra to brand when they're not even played at the same role anyway ?

Poske2 votes

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brand doesn't have the mana issues syndra has

True Brand has bigger mana issues

syndra doesn't have the aoe damage brand has

She does very much so. There are many clips of Syndra AOE one shoting 3 people within 0.1 seconds with WQE Brand AOE can be better if all stars align. Brand AOE often times relies on Enemy team incompetence which is bad

For an AOE mage Brand has lots of singletargeted shit and small AOE

syndra's e has a way longer cooldown than brand's q, not making her that safe

?????????????????????? Thats not how safety works at all like not even 1% Plus Brand 2ND q doesnt stun anyway by the time it comes up unless for whatever reason brand saved one of his abilities because other abilities average 5 seconds longer cooldown than sear

brand level's 6 is much stronger than syndra's in a 2v2 scenario

Look even if it were its by small % in those cases where all starts align Brand would still be outclassed in to many different ways by syndra

syndra doesn't have a passive pre 9, brand's makes his poke

That doesnt fking matter when each of syndra abilities has higher hitrate dmg and range Each of brand abilities do meh damage due to that passive. 10/10 design actually

brand has a way better sinergy with rilay + liandry than syndra and will always outdamage syndra because of this

True he has more niche item build. But he is none the less forced to build chapter item If we get a mana keystone then perhaps brand LL come online faster with rylai liandry

but what's the point of comparing syndra to brand when they're not even played at the same role anyway ?

Because Brand no longer gains 10283103812 gold due to spellthief and he is quite a noob bait support pick atm yet he cant return mid due to Syndra, Veigar and few others.

But Brand support > Syndra support because Syndra is level reliant

However at that point Brand is outclassed by Velkoz and Taliyah support most notably Brand used to be better then Velkoz only due to spellthief

Hotarµ2 votes

The main reason he's not unbalanced is because he has no mobility or sustain of any kind. His only form of CC can be dodged, and he's also not particularly tanky making him a sitting duck at most points of the game.

I won't lie, I hate fighting Brand supports and it's a little annoying how it's near-impossible to escape his W without boots, but overall Brand isn't one of the worst offenders right now.

Jamaree2 votes

He gets to have so much damage because that is LITERALLY all he gets. He doesn't get to dash around the battlefield, he doesn't have sustain for days, he doesn't have sustained damage over time, his range is middling, his CC takes set up AND can only hit a single target and he is squishy. So his upsides fairly balance out his downsides.

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