Old Champs VS mobility creep/New Champs

Subhuman Jungle··2 votes·2,719 views

I am writing this post from the viewpoint of someone who started playing lol during worlds season 6 and may hold certain bias because of thisViktor .

When i First started playing back in season 6 things seemed alot simpler and more fair champions and runes where in a better state although people will argue about certain metas they do not like Tank meta,ardent, etc one thing i don't think anyone can argue is that the balance around new champions and the thought process in making them after season 6 is extremely flawed.

It seems that after the release of camille everything with the exception of a few reworks is just Riot thinking how to create broken overloaded Champions with overloaded kitsIrelia Akali Aatrox Zoe Kaisa in my opinion are the biggest offenders everything nowadays has to be super mobile with broken gimmicks in their kit mobility use to be a commodity that a champ would have to trade for something else.

Take for example kaisa why is it ok for her to have an attack speed/movespeed steroid,invisibility,ultimate with massive range and shield and to top it off the ability to go AP AD or hybrid all in one kit or zoe for example mobility,one shot potential with minimal effort,ability to pick up other people sums or get free items or sums in lane for some reason even her w gives her move speed.

The list goes on and with champs like syalls coming out there seems to be no end to it for me an OG Viktor player it seems like we are a remnant of the past sure does feel nice to use my ulti on someone and have it chase them down at the speed of a fat kid with Asama trying to run after the icecream truck just to have them with minimal effort get away.

My point being that what place do old champions have against a constant threat of becoming obsolete to every new champion that gets released everything Riot release nowadays is over tuned out of this world in comparison to champions of old, these are my thoughts i would like to know what others thinkViktor .

7 Comments

PhearBunny2 votes

unfortunately hypermobility and overloaded kits are the standard of balance, pretty much ever since Yasuo released. Most old champs are just waiting for their reworks to bring them up to par.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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unfortunately hypermobility and overloaded kits are the standard of balance, pretty much ever since Yasuo LeeSin released.

fixed it for you there.

you cant compare a ranged champion like viktor with a bunch of melee champions and expect viktor to have the same kit + range.

melee champions will always have more tools and more power in their abilities, because range in itself is already massive in this game. base stats alone dont do it, because it doesnt matter if a champion has 500 more health for your 800 more range, when he gets permakited and has no abilitiy to make a play on the ranged character. ever.

Subhuman Jungle1 votes

guess you are just going to ignore the other examples like zoe or kaisa iand instead tunnel on 1 champ.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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guess you are just going to ignore the other examples like zoe or kaisa iand instead tunnel on 1 champ.

not sure if theyre overloaded or just overtuned.

i mean kaisa is just as dumb as vayne, and zoe is just really designed around the dumb idea of having all of her damage on one ability. i guess her w is kindof overloaded.

but theyre just kindof shitty design and not more overloaded than already existing champions who are just as cancerous. Tristana Vayne etc.

PhearBunny1 votes

I think Ezreal is the perfect example of what the trade off should be for mobility. These new champions just don't have that tradeoff.

saltran1 votes

I would love to see ppls reaction if the next champ they released was Tristana

Wtf Rito mobility creep such a long range jump that resets with kills, assists ir even her E can we stop this mobility creep ok new champs already ?

JeaneGreene1 votes

Riot would never release a new champion whose ability said “Tristana gains attack speed”

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