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Scuttle Crab is easily OP

WhyUDontGankMid··1 votes·3,957 views

Repost from reddit. Original: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2umj68/scuttle_crab_is_easily_op/

With alot of junglers able to easily solo Drake at five to six level range, control of Dragon area is big enough of an objective on its own. Considering how much damage jungle camps do early on versus harmless crab who gives you area control decent exp, big chunk of gold (full details there: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Rift_Scuttler) and DOESN'T FIGHT BACK, it makes crab a pretty safe time investment, while some champions can also gain life from punching it. Also it's rich get richer: if you are behind and can't contest the crab, you won't be able to cover much deficit by exchanging crab for clear time due to how efficient killing damn crab is, not even looking at speed shrine it leaves to its' slayer.

I totally think that crab (unless it wears Thornmail or something) should give no gold and no (or less) EXP and it absolutely doesn't need to give 30 extra gold to holder of T2 jungle item.

16 Comments

InsaneSamurai3 votes

It also takes a long time to kill and runs you around in a neutral and likely warded area.

JJI7441 votes

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It also takes a long time to kill and runs you around in a neutral and likely warded area.

That depends. Certain champions can kill the crab quickly/easily. Jungle Nidalee being about the most absurd example right now. If you have any good form of non-slow CC the crab dies rather rapidly.

InsaneSamurai1 votes

That's true, and any damaging champ who gets a small lead can take it out relatively fast(and a Lee, lead or no).

JJI7441 votes

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That's true, and any damaging champ who gets a small lead can take it out relatively fast(and a Lee, lead or no).

Its not just damage, the crab loses 50 Armor/MR if hit by a root or any form of hard CC. Nidalee's hunt currently roots jungle monsters for a short time, letting her clear it very rapidly.

Any AA-base champ with golem buffs, or someone using purple smite, can clear the crab within a couple of seconds.

InsaneSamurai1 votes

Unless it's been alive a while and hasn't respawned at the proper current level of hp and such, then it will not go down in 2 seconds to one champ, AA based or not(unless they are fed, or specifically abusive champs).

ComeOnAndSlamJam1 votes

The scuttle crab is the only thing keeping some junglers, who have a shit time in the jungle, relevant. I'm against taking away anything from it.

WhyUDontGankMid1 votes

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The scuttle crab is the only thing keeping some junglers, who have a shit time in the jungle, relevant. I'm against taking away anything from it.

Which ones? Is it supposed to?

InsaneSamurai1 votes

This means there is a problem with the entire jungle, not the crab.

ComeOnAndSlamJam1 votes

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This means there is a problem with the entire jungle, not the crab.

I agree 110%, but I think nerfing the crab would make things worse.

Incognonymous1 votes

The vision control alone is worth the investment in killing it, but honestly so many people ignore it it's become a decent, relatively safe objective.

Abyssphere1 votes

The scuttle crab is probably my favourite thing about the new jungle. The vision/movement speed boost area feel really good to get and cool to have, but never feel overpowered when using it or when having it used against you.

riftsnip3r1 votes

Well I play under jungle get my blue and run down kill that and get a lvl 3 drag and I can see if anyone is coming

GG Beers1 votes

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riftsnip3r1 votes

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GG Beers1 votes

yeah it was on the forums, I remember your name.

riftsnip3r1 votes

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