ADC has become a joke AGAIN. (Winrates)

Edensˇ·Dec 8, 2017·3 votes·999 views

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ŚhunpoDec 8, 201710 votes

Itemization. Adc has always been a very expensive role.

Excuse me, what the fuck? Your core items are THE cheapest compared to any other role in the fucking game. Now we know that you're just talking out of your ass.

EdensˇDec 8, 20173 votes

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Succubús GFDec 8, 20174 votes

What adc buys both?Bot lane is a duo lane therefore more gold income from kills. A mages core two items cost a whole lot more than an adcs, not to mention they can penalized a lot more for it considering mages have skillshots :^)

EdensˇDec 8, 20172 votes

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vgamedudeDec 8, 20171 votes

So videos of pros dodging skill shots from other pros are just fake?

EdensˇDec 8, 20172 votes

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vgamedudeDec 8, 20171 votes

Thats really all you have isn't it? Sad!

You honestly think you're better than the pro players bud? Have fun with that.

EdensˇDec 8, 20172 votes

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vgamedudeDec 8, 20171 votes

Yeah thats why Jhin at the highest level of play (what you keep constantly referring to with your elitism) outdamaged a fed faker and built cheap lethality items.

Also there are 9 adcs with positive win rates. http://champion.gg/statistics/#/roleSort=ADC&sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend&roleSort=ADC

Furthermore there is only enough data for 17 ADCs, which means over half of the ADCs played have positive winrates.

EdensˇDec 8, 20172 votes

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vgamedudeDec 8, 20171 votes

Again, what exactly is your point here? You said only 2 ADCs had a positive winrate and that's objectively false.

Even if you use op gg theres what, 4 with positive winrates. I'm not sure where you get 2. Also vayne is nearly positive with an extremely high pickrate. For a champion that is allegedly one of the most mechanically difficult thats pretty good.

EdensˇDec 8, 20172 votes

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vgamedudeDec 8, 20171 votes

Read my edit.

gabetheguyDec 8, 20177 votes

GAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

EdensˇDec 8, 20172 votes

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EdensˇDec 8, 20172 votes

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NasuunaDec 8, 20176 votes

I'm an ADC main and I'm laughing.

Our itemization is so cheap.

Problem is, people aren't adjusting to the hyper aggro botlane meta and getting mauled by leonas

vgamedudeDec 8, 20175 votes

lmao its true adc mains really are the most entitled

"but muh 1v5 most important role in the game" "muh no counterplay ranged autos"

EdensˇDec 8, 20172 votes

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vgamedudeDec 8, 20172 votes

I'm not understanding what your point is. ADCs are more effective as you scale in rank, this isn't anecdote or personal experience I speak merely out of observation and statistics.

There is no way mages, assassins and tanks, especially not bruisers, outdamage adcs. That's just a flat out lie.

EdensˇDec 8, 20173 votes

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vgamedudeDec 8, 20173 votes

Tanks dont do anywhere near ADC damage, bruisers are in an absolutely terrible spot right now as acknowledged by everyone, and assassins dont have the sustained DPS or possibility for teamfight damage that ADCs do.

I don't see mages ever outdamaging ADCs either, and none of these listed classes you claim do more damage than ADCs build "one damage item" unless you count Garen with black cleaver as doing more damage than ADCs as well or something similarly ridiculous.

EdensˇDec 8, 20172 votes

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vgamedudeDec 8, 20172 votes

NONE of those are going to do anywhere near as much damage as an equally fed ADC. Are you kidding me? We have MF right now and jhin who can build lethality, hell in the last all stars game even Varus built lethality.

If youre playing around early or mid you even have ADC choices for that. Not to mention jayce isnt a tank and neither is pantheon, and they certainly dont build "one damage item.

EdensˇDec 8, 20173 votes

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vgamedudeDec 8, 20174 votes

one button and one shot adc? you honestly have to be trolling. Go watch all stars right now and the top level of players and tell me who you see doing the most damage.

Youre such a condescending rank puller and you still have no clue. Faker 6 and 0 on malz and jhin was still doing more damage in a fight than he was. Unless you honestly think you know more and are better than pros? Where ADC still reigns supreme for damage?

SnyperWulffDec 8, 20174 votes

Even the casters talked about how it was all ADC. It was disgusting to see them out damage the way they did.

EdensˇDec 8, 20172 votes

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vgamedudeDec 8, 20172 votes

This is worlds, as in going on right now, as in post new runes, as in post ardent nerf.

SnyperWulffDec 8, 20171 votes

Are you seeing everyone of his posts with nothing but a downthumb now? Or am i crazy

vgamedudeDec 8, 20171 votes

He got btfo so hard he edited all his posts to that.

vgamedudeDec 8, 20173 votes

Yes but all these deluded posters will think theyre comparable to pro players because theyre plat or whatever and will post on how ADC is somehow trash.

gabetheguyDec 8, 20174 votes

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Mages all either press one button and one shot an adc, when they're supposed to be damage per second, not assassin's. One azir q and two autos, Syndra r, ryze w e q. I understand from a bronze point of view adc is not bad. But in higher elo, it is so much easier to get shut out of a game. And being behind on an adc is not even close to being behind on a tank or mage. You can still use cc, you can still wave clear on your own and fight at objectives. But adc even when ahead is just meh

mages are supposed to be damage per second? something tells me that your diamond rank isn't legitimately acquired.

EdensˇDec 8, 20172 votes

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gabetheguyDec 8, 20172 votes

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You're bronze 2, you don't even know the basics off mages. Azir ryze and Syndra are examples of dps mages. They burst damage over time. Stuff like Ahri Kat and Ekko are mage assassin's. They one shot. But currently EVERYTHING one shots. Please reach silver before calling anyone boosted

you said that mages are sustained dps. you did not specify "dps mages" as those are the exception, not the rule. second of all, syndra is a burst mage. I really don't think you understand what you're talking about.

FedoranDec 8, 20174 votes

Bro are we playing the same game? ADC itemization is some of the best in the game just behind support items. Your only expensive items give you insane stats like +50% more damage on infinity edge’s passive. Like wut?

EdensˇDec 8, 20172 votes

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Quil EvrythingDec 8, 20173 votes

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There are countless issues with the adc role that I could go super in depth about but I'll just scratch the surface and see what people think.

Winrates. There are only four adc's with winrates above 50%.

and thats fine. not all adcs need to be awesome, all the time.

Adc has become a role of trying to survive, playing like a pussy, needing a babysitter just to cs, etc.

that was the age-old role of the ADC. you're supposed to carry them early game, so they can become a monster in the late game.

Or at least just take towers.

I guess an alternative view of your data is: there are a whole lot of people who really suck at the game... and a very large percentage of them think they should still pick ADC, when they should really be picking support.

Kai GuyDec 8, 20172 votes

Please don't encourage bad players to pick support. Encourage them to ignore pro play and pick champions with a lower skill requirement for success or champions who require you to learn macro related mechanics to improve their awareness so they become more usefull and aware of their role in teams comp to make it a victory. Supports great for folks who cant cs but they will never improve CS if they don't do work on it.

LegitBusinessmanDec 8, 20173 votes

You can't make these kind of posts you'll get downvoted to oblivion even though you're right.

Nothing feels as good as being a 10/0 adc and getting deleted by the 0/5 fizz who has 30 cs at 20 minutes. The role has a blatant inherent weakness that no other role deals with. You NEVER get to say 'I can win this fight because I'm fed.' Because at all stages of the game you're made of paper and it doesn't matter how god awful at basic game mechanics the enemy may be, they are still a threat.

hoyohaiDec 8, 20171 votes

Show me the video.

Not for proof, I just really want to see it. Sounds interesting.

InfernapeDec 8, 20173 votes

Didn't we just have an entire season of ADCs being literally the most important role in the game?

vgamedudeDec 8, 20171 votes

They still are.

EdensˇJan 17, 20181 votes

you mean the item ardent censor? lol

hoyohaiDec 8, 20171 votes

Wait why are your comments basically all thumbs downs? What happened?

InfernapeDec 8, 20171 votes

Mods probably

hoyohaiDec 8, 20171 votes

Ok thanks

vgamedudeDec 8, 20171 votes

Its not the mods, he edited all his posts. He even said earlier he would delete the posts.

Critmaster GarenDec 8, 20171 votes

there are only 4 adc with winrates above 50% because those 4 are shitting on the adc with winrates below 50%.

when you have a group of champions who all have the same function on a team and the exact same playstile and only lane them against each other every single game, then thats what happens.

mf or ezreal are op? means they just shit on the other adc in lane and snowball faster, means they will have a high winrate while the others dont.

that doesnt mean adc winrate is any indication on how strong or weak they are compared to the champion pool as a whole.

give those "weakest" adc 3 items by midgame and theyre going to shit on every other type of carry in the game.

bot lane marksmen still have the largest game impact overall.