What are marksmen

Avoire·6/16/2018, 7:32:49 PM·3 votes·796 views

Patch 8.12 hit live servers and the marksmen disappeared. Mordekaiser is being more played than any other marksmen in the bot lane. There's 22 marksmen in this game and every single one of them is useless in this meta. When you get to a point where Vladimir ADC has a better win rate than Lucian, Kai'sa or Ezreal which are the 3 "most op" marksmen right now you know that something is wrong. I hope that I am not the only one to find this incorrect and that Riot is gonna make something about it soon.

5 Comments

Kurt Hyzan6/16/2018, 7:35:08 PM1 votes

Here are my thoughts. They made marksmen scale later in the game, in order to make games last longer. I actually believe they're going to do this with every single class, so game aren't lost once a mid assassin being 4/0 buys item 3147 and can shit on the entire team, or a skirmisher getting item 3078 item 3748 can 1v3, or a fighter with item 3124 item 3153 can 1v5.

This is what I believe with Riot's current choices, but heck I might be wrong and they just fucked everything up

Critmaster Garen6/16/2018, 8:00:22 PM1 votes

what you consider as a "fuck up" was intended.

look at the pool of viable mid and top laners, and even junglers compared to bot lane.

bot lane is currently the only lane in the game that is monopolized by a single class of champions. riot wants to get bruisers and mages as viable alternatives to marksmen in the position of duo lane carries.

thats not to say, that marksmen arent supposed to be playable anymore, but you will have to get used to a lot of new matchups, of which some of them will be hard to deal with, depending on the champion youre playing.

for example if im picking garen on top lane, i will have to live with the fact that my opponent might pick teemo, quinn or heimerdinger and make the lane incredibly hard for me.

you will have to live with the fact that some of those non marksmen are countering your champion in lane, and adjust your playstile just like we have to do on mid and top lane.

another problem is, that marksmen being mandatory fucks with the viability of other carry types. picking a juggernaut on top lane and a marksman on bot lane immediately messes with your teamcomp. its easier for a team of 4 men to support one ranged carry, than for 3 to support one ranged and one melee carry.

if you can play a juggernaut like darius or morde on bot lane, you still have the option to form a teamcomp around them with the other 4 picks, which makes it generally more viable to pick these champions as carries.

OtterlyLost6/17/2018, 8:33:14 AM1 votes

Marksmen are just special minions at this point that have dealing value the more you kill them. See, at first they're worth 300 gold. But the more you kill them, less their worth. Good thing they're easier to kill than the rest of the minions in the game. ;)

FyreWall6/17/2018, 4:57:33 PM1 votes

Honestly jinx feels pretty strong to me right now. Marksmen are fine, you just can't kill a mundo in .5 seconds so you feel weak.