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Can we please remake Kayle's E?

dosaq··1 votes·463 views

I'm a Kayle main and I pretty much play almost exclusively Kayle since season 2?3? (can't remember).

And while I really love playing Kayle, I am so sick of rushing Nashor's tooth almost every game I play just because CDR is so vital for Kayle's E. While one can argue that it is part of strategy (to get iteam with CDR), it's really not that strategic when you are rushing a same item over and over regardless of the situation.

If Kayle's E becomes a toggle (like Amumu's w), then CDR is not so mandatory for Kayle (its still super essential to have Kayle's ult ready on every teamfight with huge CDR). This means Kayle can rush Wit's end, Guinsoo, Nashor, or even items like Rabadon or Lich bane as his first item (or even Runaan). It would give so much more freedom and strategy for the Kayle user.

So Riot, please please do not forsake your one of the original champs and give Kayle a more freedom by remaking her E as a toggle skill...

8 Comments

Mcprowlington3 votes

pretty sure shes on the list for a full scale rework

dosaq1 votes

Honestly I feel like Kayle is unique enough already. I just hope that Kayle would have more freedom when it comes to item build as CDR is pretty much essential at this point.

Glîtchy2 votes

It should be a toggle honestly

dosaq1 votes

^

SithesisLord1 votes

Changing Kayle's E into a toggle would result in it having a tiny cost, her mana pool possibly increased and her other basic abilities would cost half the mana they cost now at all levels. Because Kayle's basic abilities all cost meaningful amounts of mana. Amounts that, if not managed properly, can prove to be overwhelmingly high. She's not a mage who gets all the free mana regen from items and safe for Lichbane, which is never part of the core build, no mana items are built on her.

It being a 10 second ability is what gives her windows of power. She's not getting 45% CDR that early on, even with 10% flat from runes + 5% from masteries, and her core item, as well as core build are amongst the most expensive ones.

With 15% CDR at level 1, Guinsoo's rush, as well as Wit's End rush are both perfectly viable, although i cannot fathom why anyone would want Wit's End when Void Staff exists and every single Kayle main under the sun packs Stormraider's or occasionally TLD.

Zerker's, Nashor's, Guinsoo's in any order of build into Lichbane, Void Staff and a situational 6th item are the go to builds presently.

dosaq1 votes

The thing is, kayle is ONLY useful in fight while her E is on, and kayle has no escape skill so when her E is over you have to either walk iut of the battle or just become a meet shield and die unless the enemy is kind enough to walk into kayles melee range. Kayle is not a burst champ where you nuke whole bunch of dmg and escape and wait for your cooldown.. kayle is more like an adc but sorta useless adc when her E is on CD..

SithesisLord1 votes

Considering her E is going to be on a 6 to 4 second cooldown with proper runes and masteries at level 1, she's not that useless.

Her escape tool is useful when used in the right time.

Walking out of battle is like taking a break for Kayle. Get out when E goes on CD, go back in 4 seconds later.

dosaq1 votes

what about 90% kayle summoners rushing nashor's tooth? don't you think kayle deserves more freedom when it comes to item build?

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