Stop making new champs ban-able in Draft

Skycoin··3 votes·1,389 views

It's so unfair that I have to keep dodging draft to play a champ I paid 20$ for. I can understand ranked, but allowing new champs to be banned in draft is fucking stupid.

People avoid learning how to play against new champs by banning them in games upon release. half the time its just morons who dont know/care who to ban, and dont want to deal with having to think.

There are other game modes, private games, etc these people can go do if they really want to avoid whats happening. Punish those people, not the ones trying to learn - ESPECIALLY WHEN WERE PAYING REAL MONEY FOR THIS SHIT! COME ON!!!!!

22 Comments

Queen Of Flowers7 votes

dont pay 20$ for a champ then lmao, or dont play draft and go on blind pick. also just because you spend money it doesn't mean you should get benefits like not being able to have your champ banned out

Colgate Gator4 votes

Did you pay $20 in order to feel a sense of pride and accomplishment?

ShaftyMegee3 votes

I was thinking today they shouldn't let a new champion play in ranked at all for the first day. Almost no-one knows how to play it within the first 24 hours so why allow it in ranked?

Bobloser35553 votes

if you paid $20 for a champ then that's your fault

Panicpoint1 votes

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if you paid $20 for a champ then that's your fault

his $20 keeps the game running

Clockwork Madoka3 votes

Asking for any champ, new or not, to be unbannable in unranked or ranked is a bad idea, especially on the first day. You shouldn't be playing any new champ in ranked, even if you decided to drop 20$ on them.

They're probably banning Zoe because they don't want inexperienced people to insta-pick her.

Skycoin2 votes

At least for the first 24-72 hours.... this is fucking dumb.

JavelinJoe2 votes

It's so unfair that I have to keep dodging draft to play a champ I paid 20$ for

This right here sums up exactly why people ban them. Players who may or may not have nay ability to play said champ but have a large wallet can just drop 20$ for a literally FREE champion next week.

People avoid learning how to play against new champs by banning them in games upon release.

No, it is because no one really knows how to play them and become too much of a risk to winning that the risk outweighs the benefit. OR, the new champion is so broken that it is 100% pick/ban.

There are other game modes, private games, etc these people can go do if they really want to avoid whats happening

There are also other game modes for players who want to play a champion too (blind, ARAM, practice mode, P V AI, private games, etc...).

half the time its just morons who dont know/care who to ban, and dont want to deal with having to think.

Or more likely they think well enough to know that ~99% of the player base can't successfully learn a champion on the spot, day 1. So while they cannot prevent them from playing 100% of the time, they can prevent them from ruining their specific game.

ESPECIALLY WHEN WERE PAYING REAL MONEY FOR THIS SHIT! COME ON!!!!!

Again, just you pal. Most do not purchase champions with RP ever... Skins, yeah on occasion almost all players may drop a few bucks for one or many. But not a 100% free champion.

Neitto1 votes

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This right here sums up exactly why people ban them. Players who may or may not have nay ability to play said champ but have a large wallet can just drop 20$ for a literally FREE champion next week.

No, it is because no one really knows how to play them and become too much of a risk to winning that the risk outweighs the benefit. OR, the new champion is so broken that it is 100% pick/ban.

There are also other game modes for players who want to play a champion too (blind, ARAM, practice mode, P V AI, private games, etc...).

Or more likely they think well enough to know that ~99% of the player base can't successfully learn a champion on the spot, day 1. So while they cannot prevent them from playing 100% of the time, they can prevent them from ruining their specific game.

Again, just you pal. Most do not purchase champions with RP ever... Skins, yeah on occasion almost all players may drop a few bucks for one or many. But not a 100% free champion.

1> What about people who got her with BE or the Hextech Mystery Champion? How can anyone learn to play her if they aren't given a chance? 2>"People avoid learning how to play against new champs by banning them in games upon release." 100% correct. It's draft mode, not ranked. The "risk" you're speaking of means nothing. Also how can anyone know a champion is broken if nobody can play them? 3>Blind pick is full of trolls and dodges, and good luck getting her in ARAM, ridiculous statement. 4>Huge assumption with nothing to back it up so.. moving on? 5>Again, what about those who didn't spend real money? And it's their money to do what they want with. So tired of seeing salty people whine about other people having money.

JavelinJoe2 votes

What about people who got her with BE or the Hextech Mystery Champion? How can anyone learn to play her if they aren't given a chance?

Practice tool. Custom Games too. The resources are there for you to test out and learn champions without necessarily hurting other players experiences.

"People avoid learning how to play against new champs by banning them in games upon release." 100% correct. It's draft mode, not ranked. The "risk" you're speaking of means nothing. Also how can anyone know a champion is broken if nobody can play them?

Sure there may be a good portion who does, but likely another good portion do so just because it is frustrating to play with or against new champions because players experiment, learn, and do all sorts of things when testing new champions. Which can and often do lessen the enjoyment of their teammates. Plus it is hard to learn how to play against something which may not even be in the best form. Not always, but often enough. The PBE, game play clips from PBE player accounts. Just is that many players do not have PBE accounts and learn by watching others.

Blind pick is full of trolls and dodges, and good luck getting her in ARAM, ridiculous statement.

ARAM is always an option especially week 2 of release. Blind pick is a near 100% guarantee at playing said champion if you can pick them before the other team members do.

Not really an assumption. Most cannot learn the ins and outs of a champion, especially newly released, in just 2-3 games. It usually takes a while to get comfortable, and with it being preseason chaos as well, likely players just do not want to deal with the hassle of a teammate learning a new champion. Sure quite a few experienced players can get a feel for them if some of their mechanics are similar to other champions or they are too straight forward to really mess up (like with Garen for example).

Again, what about those who didn't spend real money? And it's their money to do what they want with. So tired of seeing salty people whine about other people having money.

What about them? The basis of your argument is that you opted to pay to play a ftp game and could not play how you wanted. This game does not revolve around who pays to play. Never has there been a pay to win feature where paying real money gave you special privileges and such. Paying real money for champions just shortens the time you have to grind for in game currency. It in no way entitles you to be able to play them whenever you wish. It is your money, so do with it what you want. But I am tired of seeing salty people whine about other people not having or not wanting to spend real money on a FTP game thinking they can have special benefits because they have excess money and spend it.

What you are describing is more or less like saying that since you decided to tip the cashier at Walmart, you should be able to cut to the front of the checkout line whenever you want to for the next few days. It does not work like that and neither does LoL.

Magi Mayvin2 votes

I would agree but since they only release cancer after cancer I'm not in the mood of playing against or with that shit.

Nyan LisX1 votes

Actually, Zoe isn't that cancerous. She's pretty tricky to play & not many have mastered her yet. The only thing that should be nerfed is her E, hard to dodge. Should be a bit smaller or slower. Otherwise she's not that horrible, trust me.

Magi Mayvin

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Actually, Zoe isn't that cancerous. She's pretty tricky to play & not many have mastered her yet. The only thing that should be nerfed is her E, hard to dodge. Should be a bit smaller or slower. Otherwise she's not that horrible, trust me. Many champs are hard to play and still the lords of annoyance.

I'm not talking about them being necessarily OP but more annoying to play against, like Yasuo w's or zed's half map instant teleport back to safety, or riven's 0 cooldown dashes while she cces you with her knock up and stun 24/7 and when u finally get to hit her she gets a shield from E.

Fishlord1 votes

Aren't new champs 975 rp? How did you buy her for $20?

Clockwork Madoka1 votes

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Aren't new champs 975 rp? How did you buy her for $20?

May have gotten her skin at the same time.

Neitto1 votes

Agreed. Blind pick is full of trolls and dodgers and good luck getting her in ARAM. Time for some solo custom games I guess?

FooDang1 votes

Im just going to laugh at you and move on.

Śhunpo1 votes

Stop playing draft pick then?????

PimpStickNasus1 votes

No, fuck Zoe

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Why don't you just play blind pick?

If you open up a custom game and go through the process of champion select (scroll down to see where Zoe appears on your screen) and then put a piece of tape there, it saves your scroll position on the page.

The next time you go into champion select in blind pick you can just instantly click the place on your screen that is taped and you will have selected Zoe before all the other people can finish scrolling down or typing her name into the search bar.

This used to work for me years ago when I still played blind pick.

Skycoin1 votes

Youre all wrong

the pussies that ban her in draft are exactly that

And A Real Hiero1 votes

That shit ain't ever gonna see the light of day.

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