Ranked has been bad for years now

Anorath··7 votes·1,393 views

So for a long time, ever since Riot decided to introduce a ladder climbing system with the whole promotion system, ranked has become a more or less 'locked' system. You can win as many games as you want, climb your way from 3 to 1 in whatever your rank may be. But now you run into the best of 5 thing. Now if you lose 3 of those 5 promo games you are now stuck and gotta do it ALL over again, rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat.

Honestly this isn't a good mechanic, never has been. This is a game that relies on MORE than just you. Because if you alone could just do it, then why is it a team game? Now if your luck is as garbage as mine, you've probably had your fair share of trolls and feeders. Now, the obvious troll picks are very obvious but here's where the whole promo game thing comes into play again. I now can choose to tolerate, hope to carry, and hope to not be weighed down by these troll picks, or dodge, get an auto loss to said promotion, and get a penalty time too. That's the definition of a lose lose situation. Seriously it's a terrible concept to hinder people; to hold them back, because they want to avoid these bad team comps, these obvious troll picks. Such as one where I had a GP and Heimy bot lane instead of an actually adc and support. And while maybe in some cases that could work on the unskilled bunch. Duos that queue up and do this because they want to in ranked, not really cool. I really wish the old ELO system was back. When it was just big numbers, 2200 ELO etc etc. But now we have this ladder climb bronze/silver/gold etc etc going on where you can pretty much get locked into your place because you get trolled or people that don't know how to play and so on and so forth.

This new team builder works, TO A POINT, but falls off in many aspects. Specifically still being that someone can choose to queue up as bot and support, and they don't wanna support so hey guess what now you have 'support' kindred because they don't want to and just did it for a quick jump in queue. Seriously Riot, why do we still have this system? It's terrible, it locks players out, it forces people to just become aggravated because they WANT to play ranked, they WANT that competitive gaming, but CAN'T because you put them in some piss poor thing where if their team holds them back, they just get screwed. End of story.

30 Comments

Dirty Roleplayer3 votes

People generally get anxious when in promos. Which means they tilt too often and are not focusing on the game. Best cure to this is to not look at your match history (or League placements) and continue your ranked streak. And most importantly to keep it cool.

Anorath2 votes

Except what's the cure when you get locked to Bronze 1 for 3 months regardless of going 20/2/11 as an average for majority of the season because teammates troll, etc.

The Sword Saint1 votes

Doesn't happen. You're experiencing bias in your observations due to frustration, but that doesn't change reality. The system works, and it's a better ladder system this way than if it was pure raw elo where you have no protection from dropping down at tier and division levels. In a raw elo system you can go on a losing streak and drop down so low that you might as well be done that season because you ain't coming back without hundreds of games going 51%+ winrate. With this ladder system you have a protective net that softens the blows of having a few bad games in a row. In order to prevent that safety net from causing inflation and making every single player rise in rank artificially, there are promo games so you don't get a lucky game or two and barely scrape into a tier you don't belong in - you have to win up to the borderline elo range and then win 3-5 games in a set.

That's the price you pay for the protection you get when you succeed. Which, by the way, you don't have a 'right' to get a higher rank from playing a lot of games. It's a skill measuring system, not a pension you pay into with hours put into playing.

Dirty Roleplayer1 votes

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Except what's the cure when you get locked to Bronze 1 for 3 months regardless of going 20/2/11 as an average for majority of the season because teammates troll, etc.

KDA really doesn't matter in this point. I've heard these excuses before. Also that is the worst case scenario and you deserved it (if you're actually stuck somewhere). Best way to win is to always improve and not blame your teammates. I have a feeling that you're guilty.

ItsCalledALance1 votes

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Except what's the cure when you get locked to Bronze 1 for 3 months regardless of going 20/2/11 as an average for majority of the season because teammates troll, etc.

kills dont now, and have never won games.

Sir Yamazuki1 votes

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Except what's the cure when you get locked to Bronze 1 for 3 months regardless of going 20/2/11 as an average for majority of the season because teammates troll, etc.

You aren't going 20/2/11 on average, you die 10+ times so many times, 10 deaths is 5x more. You have low average farm, sometimes half the farm your team mates have.

Also, what about that Yi that carried you in rank? Was that all you and your team mates were all useless while you 1v5ed? How about the Karma support that had more gold than you while dealing more than double your damage that carried you? It's so easy to blame your team mates even though you have multiple games where they completely out perform you in every single way.

You have nearly no ranked games for last season or current season yet you expect to get out of Bronze while not even playing rank?

LoL Qaeda1 votes

My last promos I had a jungle Draven "figuring things out" on my team two games in a row. I can't even count how many times I heard "executed" those games. I didn't rage even after the game. I just basically accepted it as my ranked reality. Bronze wins.

ItsCalledALance2 votes

no no, I'm sorry youre not diamond/challenger. youre not allowed to have an opinion. you still lose games. sorry just the way it goes.

When you stop sucking so bad and win every game then you're allowed to have an opinion.

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holy fuk wait a second!!!

how the actual hell did you ONLY have 117 CS in a 50 minute game?????

I found the problem holy cow. I'm bad but thats a whole new level. yes yes, takes one to know one, which is why i'm fully qualified to judge here. I suck bad...but damn son, at LEAST double your CS and your games will change overnight. when you play ADC, your ONLY job is to get CS, not to make plays, not harass, not to do jack. GET CS> Thats it. 200 at 40 minutes is...your team look at that and gives up.

As a jungler, If I look bot lane, and see MF ~ 50 cs every 10 minutes. I'll NEVER gank that lane. i die on the inside. because I know that MF is going to be useless.

Anorath2 votes

Cute :3

SnugglePuggle942 votes

Why don't you stop being mean, eh? That's not nice at all.

ItsCalledALance3 votes

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Why don't you stop being mean, eh? That's not nice at all.

nice or not, its what will help. which is why most of us crappy players come here. we want help. Dont give 2 craps about someone stuffing purple feely goods in our face. I want results, I want hlep. I dont care about someone patting me on the back and going 'awe there there!'

GIVE US ADVICE! i dont want to be in bronze anymore than the next person. Seeing someone join a game with no runes/masteries, and no understanding of the game is what causes rage. its why bronze is hell.

stop being nice, and start helping.

SnugglePuggle942 votes

Well telling someone to "stop sucking so bad" is mean, and what gets you reported. The first step of helping is being nice, bud. I got out of Bronze in the preseason only to be stuck back in it so I don't like it anymore than you do, but at least I'm not being mean to other people.

Maybe others will help and give advice if you didn't shun them or say rude things. They don't particularly like to help when they will get attacked for it.

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Anorath3 votes

Thank you for sounding like a reasonable person that actually understands this concept and sees what's wrong with it.

SnugglePuggle941 votes

Your welcome. I don't like people who are rude to others like that.

Dukues1 votes

Well you can be nice and helpful. But sometimes tough love is needed.

ItsCalledALance1 votes

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Well you can be nice and helpful. But sometimes tough love is needed.

This is true. I might be blunt, but i like that, though I grew up in the army.

I however refuse to take responsibility for another persons emotional state. People complain that they ahve such bad teams, and bad games and yak yak yak. when you look at their record MINE INCLUDED!!!111111 and see that they are averaging 100 cs in 20 minutes. thats a HUGE thing they can work on.

Dont be raggin' on your team mates when you have so much you can work on to get better, thats my whole point, and im fully aware, im the worst offender. I need to work on this. And I am.

I just HATE this sub-culture that riot has created with this "toxic people make you play bad" crap. No, they really dont! you make your own choice, be posiitive, ignore the trolls, and play better, you'll win more.

Dukues1 votes

Damn yea I agree. I know I am guilty of blaming others as well but at the end of the day I could do a lot more to help my team win. The cs thing is soo true! I know I suffer a lot for it. My entire thing is to try and get Gold again but I know to get higher than like gold 4 or 5 I really really really need to get better at csing. Even csing better now would help me climb much faster. But yea, a lot of people complain but fail to look inside at themselves. Sadly, until they do that they will continue to be stuck in the same place.

ItsCalledALance1 votes

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Damn yea I agree. I know I am guilty of blaming others as well but at the end of the day I could do a lot more to help my team win. The cs thing is soo true! I know I suffer a lot for it. My entire thing is to try and get Gold again but I know to get higher than like gold 4 or 5 I really really really need to get better at csing. Even csing better now would help me climb much faster. But yea, a lot of people complain but fail to look inside at themselves. Sadly, until they do that they will continue to be stuck in the same place.

Unfortunately most of the game does not agree. I have had people in game tell me that something I said "triggered them, and now we can't win"

the actual fuck!?

Dukues1 votes

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Unfortunately most of the game does not agree. I have had people in game tell me that something I said "triggered them, and now we can't win"

the actual fuck!?

lmao. No idea. Not sure how serious you are about ranking up but I would be down to play some games sometime if you want. Should add Oldwisepotato if you are interested.

Anorath2 votes

Are you talking about my Quinn game I recently played where I had a Yi top, jungle Graves and against a jungle Rengar? And was against a Kalista/Blitz with a Janna and ganked by Rengar several times along with the enemy Lissandra, forced to tower, and whenever I tried to farm Rengar just ulti'd and instagibbed me because he was so fed from Yi dying top vs Lee? Is THAT the game you're talking about? Cause my MF game I had 204 cs in 40 minutes and was 16/7/12

Unironic SJW1 votes

I feel average when i get 204 CS in 30 minutes, let alone 40.

Rocky21 votes

Are you aware of the new feature called Promo Helper?

It really...helps. A lot. No longer do I dread failing promos more than once, because I know if I reach it again, I have a good chance of passing, due to the 1 free win.

During Season 5, I was stuck in Silver 1 and 2 promos, failing dozens of times. most often to AFKS rather than poor play. After Promo Helper was introduced in preseason, I was able to climb to Gold 2, because even if I failed promos once, I usually didn't fail the second time.

Anorath2 votes

And promo helper does what exactly? Try to ensure that I don't get held behind? That my seeding didn't give me a 4-6 bs so it threw me in bronze 5 because I have troll picks all the time and people LITERALLY level accounts just to troll and do just that? Going jungle graves and yi top. Going GP/Heimy bot, intentionally feeding because of first blood being lost to the enemy team? Where does it exactly help when those always happen?

ItsCalledALance2 votes

doesn't help. IMMEDIATELY after I pass promos I get the mandatory crap feeding team with no runes\masteries on several players, and/or AFKs.

Go ahead, stalk me. Look at how many times i've gone from bronze 2 to bronze 1.

when I dont h ave trolls, I win every game. I still need to work on my CS, but other than that, I can win (nearly) every game if my team will not feed.

go ahead and look. please SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT TO DO!! begging for help here!

fééd l0rd1 votes

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doesn't help. IMMEDIATELY after I pass promos I get the mandatory crap feeding team with no runes\masteries on several players, and/or AFKs.

Go ahead, stalk me. Look at how many times i've gone from bronze 2 to bronze 1.

when I dont h ave trolls, I win every game. I still need to work on my CS, but other than that, I can win (nearly) every game if my team will not feed.

go ahead and look. please SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT TO DO!! begging for help here!

I looked you up and can tell you some of your major mistakes I also did last season where I was bronze in the beginning and gold 3 in the end. You are often playing Ahri and you are playing her well I guess (cause you have some really good scores sometimes) but you aren't buying any pinkwards sometimes. You are a midlaner.. they are so essential for you! Pick up one when you go back the first time and look up warding tutorials. There will be the places shown where you can place them effectively while playing midlane. Your cs is not that bad what bothers me more are your itembuilds. The game where you played Shyvana is a good example for that. Where is your jungle item? Why trinity force AND botrk? Also it is not intelligent to go frozen heart into thornmail (on shyv). I do get your idea of slowing the as of yi and trist but it was the wrong choice in this situation.

ItsCalledALance1 votes

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I looked you up and can tell you some of your major mistakes I also did last season where I was bronze in the beginning and gold 3 in the end. You are often playing Ahri and you are playing her well I guess (cause you have some really good scores sometimes) but you aren't buying any pinkwards sometimes. You are a midlaner.. they are so essential for you! Pick up one when you go back the first time and look up warding tutorials. There will be the places shown where you can place them effectively while playing midlane. Your cs is not that bad what bothers me more are your itembuilds. The game where you played Shyvana is a good example for that. Where is your jungle item? Why trinity force AND botrk? Also it is not intelligent to go frozen heart into thornmail (on shyv). I do get your idea of slowing the as of yi and trist but it was the wrong choice in this situation.

Thank you =D

I will try this. Feel free to add me in game, I dont mind one bit having someone watch me play and being brutally honest on how I can improve!

The Shyvana game was a nightmware! I had devourer, but my thinking was that it was not helping in team fights, so I sold it and hastily bought triforce.

I'm not sure what I could have done there, I think I should have just afk pushed a lane and forced the enemy team to come after me. I could 1v1 any of them, this may have given my team room enough to push another lane. I had almost 600 move speed with my W...that one was rough lol I just got to the point where I didn't know what to do.

LoL Qaeda1 votes

I had a promo helper locked up to move up B2 after my last failed attempt to do so (mentioned in another post below). Then I got demoted this morning. Does it still apply to the lower division I'm in, or do I lose it for demotion?

fééd l0rd1 votes

You said it by yourself. It's a team game. If you can't carry your feeding teammates you don't deserve to win. It's simple as that.

ItsCalledALance1 votes

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You said it by yourself. It's a team game. If you can't carry your feeding teammates you don't deserve to win. It's simple as that.

now that is some brutal honesty =D

most of us know this, at least somewhere deep down inside, however WHAT to do about it is the question.

Do you pay attention to your report threatening teamand group? KNOWING youare not going to win a team fight? or do you push a lane forcing the enemy to chase you? if they catch you youre going to get reported anyway, if not, you win a hero....

supersonic21 votes

does anyone want to play with me

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