How bad is Quinn, really?

Rudianos··1 votes·1,234 views

I'm looking to pick up Quinn, and was super excited when she came on free rotation. I've felt the issues she has where her autos don't actually happen, but are there any other glaring weaknesses that I'm not aware of? I've heard she's strong despite her bugs, I just want to make sure there's nothing frustrating that is being overshadowed by the more flashy bugs.

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61413860_DEL2 votes

I love her personally, she's super fun but her autos are clunky. You can make the q work by pretty much just going up to her when you've cleared the minion wave, and e'ing into the other adc gives you an immediate harrier mark, which, as a e-aa combo actually does a shit ton of dmg. For me her ult just makes me feel like an assassin, which is why I love playing quinn, bc she's like an adc assassin.

Ultimatesplash1 votes

What do you mean clunky? I'm just curious. And i use Q as a harassment or against an AA champ that is doing too much damage ie Ashe was going to steroid me to death, but i blinded her and half her damage was gone as i Harrier her, AA, Vault, AA twice and she died

61413860_DEL1 votes

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What do you mean clunky? I'm just curious. And i use Q as a harassment or against an AA champ that is doing too much damage ie Ashe was going to steroid me to death, but i blinded her and half her damage was gone as i Harrier her, AA, Vault, AA twice and she died

Her aa sometimes doesn't go off.

Binxy Prime2 votes

Her entire kit gets her killed and stops her from fullfilling the role an adc usually would do

Binxy Prime1 votes

Not saying I don't think she is fun but what I said is true, which is a damn shame cause I really, really want her to be good. She works pretty well top lane and she an alright mid lane assassin. She can split push if you have sustained damage from other lanes like Yi jungle or Cass top.

Only Play Darius1 votes

She gets bullied out of lane too easily. She is the only ADC who can't harass through the minion wave, and her Q hitbox is so fat that you can never hit anyone with it because a minion will always screw it up. Using her vault to try and harass is an easy way to get yourself cc'ed and killed.

She is just underpowered as an ADC, especially early game. She's my favorite ADC (pool party gift from Riot) but I just can't make her work because I can play any other ADC and have a much, much easier time in lane.

Ultimatesplash1 votes

lol i find quinn extremely powerful early game. top lane, harass hard and go in for a early kill if possible. I just played a game against a Darius who played too passively and let me get fed after 2 kills. from there, it was gg with a double quadra kill.

She's actually pretty good, adc or top, there are many ways to use vault.

Also, use Valor as an assassin. He'll tear squishies apart, especially alone. The combo i use to kill fast while in bird form is E, Q, and AA until death or R to possibly finish them if it is too risky to do so otherwise.

Only Play Darius1 votes

Top lane yes, Quinn's early game is strong and bordering on toxic. Bot lane, she gets bullied and can't reliably respond to harass.

Ultimatesplash1 votes

i don't think that quinn is toxic top lane, there are people that can beat her quite easily. also, jungler camping top can ruin your game, especially if it is evelynn. Bot, i've done it once or twice. I was kinda kicking ass the first time, but the second time, i got harassed too much by the jung, making it a 3v2 most of the laning phase... Im not sure if i just put myself in a position to be ganked or if they happen to gank right when my trinket is on cd or if im too dangerous so they shut me down before i snowball, but its definitely something.

All in all, she's a good champ, some reworks could be nice like the AA glitch that i notice happens. I might consider buying her over Draven right now.

Ser Garland1 votes

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lol i find quinn extremely powerful early game. top lane, harass hard and go in for a early kill if possible. I just played a game against a Darius who played too passively and let me get fed after 2 kills. from there, it was gg with a double quadra kill.

She's actually pretty good, adc or top, there are many ways to use vault.

Also, use Valor as an assassin. He'll tear squishies apart, especially alone. The combo i use to kill fast while in bird form is E, Q, and AA until death or R to possibly finish them if it is too risky to do so otherwise.

Quinn top is terrible. Just play safe for the first three four levels and any tank can crush her.

therealdragon1 votes

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She is the only ADC who can't harass through the minion wave

ahem Ashe Vayne Kalista

Only Play Darius1 votes

Ashe volley is much easier to harass with regardless, compared to Blinding Assault.

Vayne is meant to have a weak early game (which isn't as weak as it used to be tbh), and she has a longer autoattack range than Quinn.

Kalista stacks rend on autos to harass, so technically it is targeted and goes through the minion wave.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Practice more with her. I can hit most of my Q on champs, even through minion waves (and keep in mind that it is AoE, so it can hit through a minion wave if they are close enough to it)

Quinn is not underpowered by any means, you just have to out the effort into getting good at playing her, as she as a fairly difficult champion (also, Quinn is pretty much strong throughout the whole game, except for maybe level 1. Once you hit 2 and can get your empowered AA - E - empowered AA with a Q somewhere in there combo, you can pretty easily bully out the other ADC. Quinn also only really needs to core items to become a late game monster and do a ton of damage. IE + SS, which yes, other ADCs commonly build, but as opposed to then needing another BF item, or even LW, she can take put pretty much any target except for a fed tank with just those first two items)

Rico Nasty1 votes

She's okay. She's nice to play if you want a fun ADC, but she's not very viable in the slightest..

Bonipherus1 votes

I haven't played her in forever and a half but she is apparently very strong early and a great lane bully. But she falls off late game and becomes extremely vulnerable with her play patterns of going into melee range to deal damage. This is why she isn't viable as an adc. Play her top if your team lacks ad damage and already has enough tanks. But if you do decide to get her I recommend the Woad Scout skin because it is nicee.

Kouga1 votes

Pretty bad.

  1. Terribad passive. I mean it can be really strong, and adds a lot of burst when it works, but it is soooooo unreliable. Especially if she's actually trying to ADC, because there are 2 Champions for it to proc on (assuming it doesn't proc on a minion for no reason) and its buggy and glitchy and you have so little control over it.. I really think they should shift her passive to function on "Valor's" abilities, like if you reveal an enemy using W it marks them, if you blind them it marks them, etc. then she could actually control her burst.

  2. Ultimate greatly conflicts with everything else she does. Suddenly you go from a fragile, relatively immobile (without using ult) ranged ADC with only 1 CC ability (that requires you to get closer to the enemy before using it, if you're trying to escape) and then you ult and turn into.... a fragile, immobile (in combat) Melee ADC with 0 CC abilities.... its just.... wat?

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

THEN DON'T USE HER ULT AT THE BEGINNING OF TEAMFIGHTS!!! How hard is that for people to see? Do you use a Cait ult right at the beginning of teamfights? No! Because no one is low enough health to be killed by it, and it can just be easily blocked by the still full health tanks! Quinn's ult works the same way!

Kouga1 votes

Okay, so you're saying that you use her ult to pick people off? Then you're still stuck with her glitchy, unreliable passive proc for the bulk of the fighting. But she has so much invested into her ult - its long duration and she gets a massive 80% AS boost, which makes it appealing to use in an all-in situation. But, she also loses the burst damage since she doesn't get her passive anymore.

It just sends mixed signals. Do I want to stay with Quinn and have to put up with her terrible AA animations and buggy passive, but keep the range? Do I Ult and risk going into melee range? Without any good escape, 0 CC, 0 survivability/defenses, that's a risky proposition. So I'm using it to pick them off? So do I just ult and then recast it to get the execution damage? Well, then you just wasted all of the potential use of the ult just for the damage. If she needed an execute that should be the central focus of her ult, not the Tag Team stuff.

Yeah, its good for chasing people down, but if you're chasing people down at low health then you're already ahead, and if you're actually winning with Quinn (given all of her other problems) then you're just being handed an easy game to begin with.

BlkGolem1 votes

I think Quinn is great except for a clunky kit. To actually boost stats on her I feel would make her op rather than more balanced. She feels balanced (However, that means she is underpowered against meta picks ^^) and some of her kit feels like it could be better, most people don't like her ult. My only problem is the movement speed falloff and the low dmg "execute" but even as an adc going in on people you don't necessarily want, but for a guy who plays too safe like me (even in lost games I die around 6 times at worst. If you die more than 10 times, that's way too much.) It helps to get in. Anyway, mostly it's her passive being clunky; choosing to mark as soon as you start attacking but giving you no damage boost, marking a dumb target, not marking the guy you are trying to kill unless he is really far away, etc. Then her autoattack is just a bit off from other champs for some reason and doesn't make sense, unless you only play quinn for a while it can result in your opponent walking away with a harrier mark on them because you canceled your auto when you q'd even though it looked like it hit. Otherwise I'd say she rocks and if this stuff got changed she would be probably not op but very reliable as she is already pretty good. Short range is fair (and it's not much shorter anyway) because of her burst in trades I think, harrier mark atk speed is great, it would help if q procced harrier and long ult cd should either be shortened or give boosts on abilities because it's good and that might make it op but it is hit or miss sometimes.

O Fallen Scholar1 votes

It's not that she is bad. She suffers from identity crisis.

Rudianos1 votes

Thanks everyone for the feedback! Fingers crossed they'll give her a bugfix pass, especially since she still seems to be getting skins...

EvilRabbitt1 votes

Quinn is strong is played well (go to motto cliche, had to do it, sorry). The thing is, you have to play her more of an assassin than an adc. Still build adc stuff, but build it a bit out of order. You need to burst people more often than not. I liked her when I tried her, and if the fiora rework goes well then I'ma make Quinn my mid or adc (haven't decided, because Jinx is my other).

Captain Astora1 votes

If you build her like a traditional ADC. You will have a bad day. She is more like a Ranged Bruiser then an ADC.

CrimsonFawx1 votes

Quinn is assassin first and adc second, so her quality of life is dependent on how much cc the enemy team has, and her life is just miserable if they have more two or more tanks. If she can get ahead the assassin part shines and she just can snowball that lead, the adc part just is clunky at times with valor trolling with putting the mark on, to quote the magikarpusedfly vid, the 5 billion health nautilus, or applying the mark right as you were vaulting to apply a mark of your own, thus wasting one mark.

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