Que Dodging

MrSweetDreams·7/21/2015, 5:22:52 AM·1 votes·849 views

Recently I found out what que dodging does for you. I'm currently waiting on a 30min que. That is absolutely atrocious considering the amount of trolls this game has. I try to always be a good sport, and work with my team. I dislike people who leave games no matter what team they are on. I understand people que dodge because they get countered extremely hard, however its also extremely unfair to not allow que dodging when you have trolls in this game. I que dodged a bit ago because we had 3 ADC's on one team. I do a lot of solo que, and I mean a lot, and I see trolls all the time. Now I imagine higher tiers take the game a bit more seriously and trolling is down to a minimum. But this is redundant. I pay good money into this game and I'm getting screwed by it at the same time.

What I would suggest is a que dodging is less serious at lower ranked games than higher ones. 30 minutes for a bronze rank with trolls. Thats a bit stupid.... You all dropped the ball on this one... Get your crap together RIOT and come up with a better solution please.

6 Comments

Posui Gart7/21/2015, 5:29:35 AM1 votes

If you are really good, its not a problem to carry game with 3 ADCs. What I suggest is 2 things at once:

  1. Make a "dodge with report" option in lobby, that reports player you chose for trolling. This reports are to be serious because of:
  2. Dodge now counts as loss but with half of LP loss(so if you would lose 20 LP after losing a game, you will lose only 10 after dodge) So if you REALLY HATE what your ally picked, you can pay with your LP to punish him
67chrome7/21/2015, 6:25:15 AM1 votes

however its also extremely unfair to not allow que dodging when you have trolls in this game.

How exactly is Riot going to be able to tell who a troll is for the purposes of queue-doding? What exactly is "trolling"? I've heard that term applied to doing everything that isn't 100% meta-certified, and even some things that are. Before assassin mids became popular? Fizz mid was trolling. Before Lucian was played in the LCS? Troll pick. Stark's Fervor on Vayne? Troll item, because clearly life steal, attack speed, and armor penetration is a "support item" because auras and we need to blame loosing on something. Any data-points you could really tack could just as easily be someone setting the new meta, or at least trying their best to channel the right entrepreneurial spirit to do so.

And If Riot just let everyone dodge with no restrictions, terrible things would happen. Several people would attempt to climb via dodging teams that look tough, trying to play into weaker-looking team compositions. Also, there's the issue their's TEN people per game. Not 5, not just you, 10. A big one zero. If the average person only feels like dodging 1 in 10 games, everyone doing that once in a row means no games would be played. The probability with a 10% chance to dodge each game would mean only 3.4 out of 10 games would even go through.

I don't know about you, but when I get kicked out of 7 games in a row on ARAM I just leave and play a different game. I can't imagine many people would stick around for an 8th game after the time it takes to get the picks/ban phase underway in ranked. especially because queue-dodgers tend to wait until the last possible moment. That would subsequently make the climb in ranked that much more painful. An average game only lasts 33 minutes once it gets underway - and with 7 queue-dodges before each game, only a 4:43 wait for each pick/ban phase prior to a dodge would effectively double the time for each game to get underway, adding another 33 minutes of wait before each 30 minutes of play. On average - you could wind up causing over an hour wait for some players.

Not even commercial to show-time ratios are that bad, usually the worst is 1 minute of commercials for 2 minutes of who-time on network television.

What I would suggest is a que dodging is less serious at lower ranked games than higher ones. 30 minutes for a bronze rank with trolls. Thats a bit stupid.... You all dropped the ball on this one... Get your crap together RIOT and come up with a better solution please.

I think you're the one that needs to get your act together.

Riot taking it easy on queue dodgers is incredibly unrealistic.

Keep in mind every queue dodger is screwing over 9 other people on average, and quite frequently their 5 opponents. For the best experience to the average player, queue dodgers are a very bad thing.

GLA Rybin8/12/2015, 3:10:42 AM1 votes

I am really frustrated with the que dodge system right now. If someone decides to autolock and take your role after you have chosen, are you just supposed to play it out anyway? Or do you get punished and the toxic person gets rewarded when you dodge? IT MAKES NO SENSE! maybe if it was kept a consistent 3 minutes I'd get it but when it happens two times i have to wait 15 minutes! So tired of it que dodge NEEDS IMMIDIATE CHANGE I have thought this for a really long time...

Bloodhawk959/27/2015, 3:10:40 PM1 votes

just que dodged because the last guy on our team picked Udyr when we had no adc