Won 10 of 10 Provisionals and placed in b5

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That doesn't really answer questions for people in Bronze. The system is obviously different. If a soft reset does (old mmr + 1200)/2 then every single player in Silver 5 and lower (so all bronze) would immediately achieve a higher MMR thanks to the reset.

So if you had an MMR of 500 before - So like Bronze 3 or 4, the reset would bump you up to 850.

If you went 10-0 in your provisionals your MMR would have to go up at least a little, let's say even as little as 900. This is bronze 2ish MMR.

So these people getting placed in Bronze 5 does not make sense with the answer you have linked. It would seem to me that Riot has changed the way they do their reset, the math doesn't workout with the linked solution.

This is all explained in the post as well, and you are simply making a mistake about recognizing the MMR ranges and what ranking they equate to. Because each other tier is basically about 300 MMR in range, bronze 1-5 consists of the MMR range of 800-1100. Below 800 is below bronze 5 level, only there is no "wood tier" or anything like that so It stays displayed as bronze 5. In almost every bronze player's case the circumstance is such that they had massively tanked MMR. Its entirely possible to hold a ranking and have no where near the MMR level required for it because Riot makes the League system more forgiving each year for low level players. All this is contained and explained within the thread of course, exactly the issues you ask about in fact. The link provided is 100% accurate about how ranked placements have worked for the past 4 seasons. This season could have some slightly different interactions with Dynamic queue, but that was disabled any ways so it works out for this season at the moment as well.

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It is very helpful!

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Since he played and won all 10 games with a great KDA, it will be far easier to climb with that MMR. If he had afk'd it would be almost impossible to climb from the same ladder position because his LP gains would be skewed because of his toxic behavior.

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That's what I'm assuming he had to, If you never been in rank before and try and win all your placements you shouldn't have much wiggle room to start with. If it was up to me I would say throw EVERYONE back in Bronze Five. The good players would climb out. (Or at least learn to match with people around same skill before going into rank.)

Was in b4 with 70 some lp

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If it was up to me I would say throw EVERYONE back in Bronze Five.

I don't remember what season the hard-reset was, but after that ranked was unplayable for like a full month.

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That's what I'm assuming he had to, If you never been in rank before and try and win all your placements you shouldn't have much wiggle room to start with. If it was up to me I would say throw EVERYONE back in Bronze Five. The good players would climb out. (Or at least learn to match with people around same skill before going into rank.)

they used to hard reset. But, to be honest it was very tedious and annoying. Playing early on was basically . . . you had a group of 5 people. One would be a "Bronze 5" Then you might have a silver/gold player or two. Then on the enemy team you may very well have Faker chilling in the mid lane vsing a player who just hit level 30. This was even more annoying for the fact that it punished the good players and did relatively nothing to bad players.

For example: A "bronze 5" player would be reset to say . . . 1100/1300 mmr. Something around there. So, at the start of the season they would literally GAIN mmr. Meanwhile, players at 2400 mmr would lose around 1,000 mmr. They would then have to climb all the way back up there while the bad players would go on giant losing streaks all the way back down.

It was a poorly designed system that Hearthstone currently uses and is often complained about as well. Soft reset is infinitely superior because it at least spreads it out a little further and doesn't punish you near as harshly.