21/0/9 or 21/9/0 on apc

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Is it better to take nine in defense or utility and why? God Bless.

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Rock MD4 votes

21/0/9. Mana regen like that + bitchscuits and the summoner spell CDR are too good to pass up.

Unless you're a manaless AP. Then 21/9/0.

Verified111 votes

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60cG25XEnH2 votes

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BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

It really depends.

21/0/9 is more suitable for champs that has very little mobility & highly depends on his summoner spells for escapes, such as Velkoz Malzahar Karthus

21/9/0 is more of an AP fighter type of champs, where such mage champs can take in a few hits without bother, technically speaking, more defensive, such as Mordekaiser Diana Kassadin

1000angrybees1 votes

fighter-ish mids should take 21/9/0, while long range or poke ap champs should take 21/0/9.

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

i always do 25-0-5

so i guess neither. closest is 21-0-9 though

Jasiwel1 votes

I think it actually is based entirely on the player and playstyle. I personally like to go 21/9/0 because the extra bit of defense always goes a long way for me, whereas I can usually manage my mana until I get Morellonomicon.

For me, I have simply had better success with 21/9/0 since I used it starting Season 3. I've tried using 21/0/9 and simply can't win with it without being carried.

That said, I play mostly Viktor, where I have to be in medium to close proximity most of the laning phase. Whenever I play Vel'Koz or Xerath, I do find the defense to a waste because I'm at a good distance away from my opponent most of the laning phase. During teamfights, I'm usually further back and playing keep-away from the other team. That said, if I'm playing against Talon or someone that instagap-closes, then I will probably go 21/9/0 just to prevent potential early deaths.

Nameless Voice1 votes

It depends on what you value more.

If you find yourself dying, just barely losing trades, then you might want to go 21/9/0; if you find yourself running out of mana or wishing you had your summoner spells slightly more often, go 21/0/9.

It's a similar question to taking AP or MR blues - one gives you more offensive power, the other helps you not die.

Personally, I'd say go 21/0/9 unless you need the extra defence.

Also remember that those aren't the only two options. You can go 9/21/0 if you need to be really tanky, or less common combinations with deeper utility for spell vamp, etc. - try to pick whichever masteries you think will help your champion the most.

IcyPepper1 votes

Depends on the champion, really.

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