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"For all people that flame and get toxic in low elo because they have bad teammates "

BleupizZ··5 votes·5,235 views

Okay so there's these type players who get very toxic and flame and start cursing etc... because why ? because, someone in your team is feeding or not helping or pretty much does not know how to play. Well here's the thing you're in low elo or as we call it in the memes "Elo Hell" Iron, Bronze, specially Iron, so if you gonna be toxic in low elo game and saying why you play so bad or feeding etc that's because you're in low elo stuck with people like me in Iron 3, like what do you expect when you join low elo ranked game to play with Faker or Double Lift ? this is freaking low elo game where all player that don't care about win / players that no matter how much they try they will still suck / players where they just play casually ,etc... Exist. Joining a low elo and flaming and get toxic towards bad player is like going to a prison and saying why there's criminals in here ? You have to blame yourself for being toxic and snowflake for saying report this player, just because that player didn't play good and just simply kept dying. The point is the report is not gonna help bad players to get better and the report is not gonna do anything too cause tons and tons of games where my teammate reported me for playing bad from years and years and till today and I still playing as long as I keep it cool and not toxic in the chat I should be fine I didn't get any punishment for playing bad, now back to the point instead of saying report or trying to go crazy in the chat because someone not going right in the team, try to take deep breath and keep it calm and cool and remember it's just video game that has over 100 millions players in it that means at least 60% of them not too perfect that is why the low elo always has the biggest number of players and there's very small number of players who are in Diamond and higher up to challenger. Hope you get the message and next time when you jump in ranked bronze/iron/silver game try to keep it cool you're not playing in challenger and getting paid per every win so no need to do big deal from it just play and have fun.

16 Comments

Super Galaxy5 votes

You should have at least a basic understanding of the game's objectives and your own champion if you play ranked.

BleupizZ2 votes

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You should have at least a basic understanding of the game's objectives and your own champion if you play ranked.

That's not gonna be enough for low elo I'm for example been playing from a long time I spent years and years of playing I use my main champions level 6 besides others champions and I do get an S- and S+ and A+ from game to game but still there's always more loses than win that's how life works it's not fair no matter how much you try hard you simply not gonna find things the way you wanted specially when you have full week work and for game like this. So the basic stuff that you learn from the game guide or these YouTube videos is simply not gonna be the full key to win you every game, also don't get fooled and think it's gg ez win for you when you see a player with level 7 or 6 on his champion during champion select because I've seen them before goes level 7 mastery and still feed and end the game with horrifying terrible score.

Super Galaxy4 votes

{quoted}

That's not gonna be enough for low elo I'm for example been playing from a long time I spent years and years of playing I use my main champions level 6 besides others champions and I do get an S- and S+ and A+ from game to game but still there's always more loses than win that's how life works it's not fair no matter how much you try hard you simply not gonna find things the way you wanted specially when you have full week work and for game like this. So the basic stuff that you learn from the game guide or these YouTube videos is simply not gonna be the full key to win you every game, also don't get fooled and think it's gg ez win for you when you see a player with level 7 or 6 on his champion during champion select because I've seen them before goes level 7 mastery and still feed and end the game with horrifying terrible score.

No one can win every game, and having a high score on a champion proves nothing other than you've played a lot of games on them. By understanding your own champion's mechanics, I mean you should know your damage limitations, how your abilities queue with each other when pressed simultaneously, etc. You should also know when to and when not to engage in a fight, and danger ping your allies who think otherwise when the outcome is clearly bad. There's only so much you can do, but you have to expect your Ranked teammates to understand the importance of objectives, grouping, and splitpushing at the very least, regardless of division. If you go into Ranked completely clueless, you're a detriment to the rest of your team - even autofills should know to play cautiously, because being autofilled does not mean the game's general rules change, it just means that you're in a different environment. There are dozens of websites you can check for item builds in-game, and even more short guides (I'm talking 3-10 minutes) on how things like lane priority and splitpushing work. In earlier seasons, you could be accepted as someone who just was oblivious. Nowadays, you have so much free info at your fingertips that you cannot, and shouldn't be. This is Ranked, in a video game, but it's still Ranked - take it seriously.

Böulder1 votes

I would agree. Playing normals and getting even an s plus means absolutely nothing. Stats are always skewed so there is no reason to even bother seeing them as worth looking at. For example some of my stats on certain champs are better then challenger players in every way. Am I anywhere near challenger level? No quite the opposite. And ofc everybody can feed no matter their score or mastery because stuff happens but ideally even if my team has garbage micro I think everybody playing ranked should learn macro to at least let somebody carry them.

Super Galaxy1 votes

{quoted}

I would agree. Playing normals and getting even an s plus means absolutely nothing. Stats are always skewed so there is no reason to even bother seeing them as worth looking at. For example some of my stats on certain champs are better then challenger players in every way. Am I anywhere near challenger level? No quite the opposite. And ofc everybody can feed no matter their score or mastery because stuff happens but ideally even if my team has garbage micro I think everybody playing ranked should learn macro to at least let somebody carry them.

Some things to account for in Challenger, and in higher divisions in general, is that there aren't nearly as many kills per game. Having higher damage per death and KDA don't make you a better performer than higher players, it justs shows that you can kill a lot in divisions where people make more fatal mistakes and fail to capitalize on your own.

Böulder1 votes

Thats what I was saying. the stats are skewed in my favor because I am currently playing in an elo lower then the one I should be in. this is why I average better stats, not because I am better then the challenger stats that I compared myself to in the stats page.

Rustypug4 votes

whats annoying isnt players playing bad in bronze its the lack of care i understand if people have bad games but when you play a champ you literally have 0 points in,feed out your ass and then say "lol its just bronze bro why do you care" its bullshit

Quáx3 votes

And to add to this. Several players don't realize that flaming makes you play worse or whatever you're accusing them of doing, they're more likely to just do it. And also what's the point? Getting into a fight over a video game? "Oh well, its a ranked game hubizabuba" Yea so what? Still, a video games, unless you have aspirations to go into the LCS then there's no point in caring about ranked as much as some people do. Why start a fight when you could just not....or maybe do one better and shower the player with constructive feedback like "hey Im a tank stay behind me and just do dmg we got this you're fine." This game is more than just physical skill, this game is very much a mentality thing as well, keeping a positive mentality takes practice and patience but it'll easily better experiences in soloq. And also if you flame people in norms.....why? Its norms go play ranked where people treat the game more serious(because because) and stop bitching at your predator, resolve morgana jungler with red smite.

ASilenceof3Parts3 votes

You just contradicted yourself. You say people shouldn't care about ranked but then say that if people want a game where people take the game seriously to go play ranked instead of normal. Where do I go if I want a serious game? I am a competitive person so when I see that a game has split a separate que out for those players who want to play competitively, even if they aren't mechanically that good at the game, I expect there to be a certain level of seriousness in that. But when I see an adc(in high silver btw) who cant keep up at least 5cs/min, if not at least 7 or 8 I have to wonder why they are in the serious game mode instead of practicing or playing normals. Again if I want to seriously improve and get people who think about what they are doing which que should I go in? I know I'm not a mechanical God who will be diamond but that shouldn't gate me from having the same serious experience that that type of player has

Now flaming and toxicity is bad we can all agree on that. But what half the playerbase considers flaming is barely criticism let alone true toxicity. Telling someone what to do isnt flaming. Asking them why they didnt do something isnt flaming. Heck even calling a player who is 0/8 out for playing bad isnt flaming. It's a fact. I've had sports coaches tell me far worse things and it's considered motivation not flaming. Now if you start swearing at them or calling them inappropriate things or start purposely trolling them that's flaming.

UrFieryDoom3 votes

i dont flame or be toxic i just get them and feel like they add on the difficulty meter but im always trying to be nice. trolling them doesnt help them stop.

Heroic Sausage3 votes

I'm a casual league player. No real aspirations to play ranked. But I do enjoy the occasional game. Aram mostly. But I've been dipping my toes into 5's.

What really gets me is the attitude I get. I play Viktor mid mainly. And for the most part I do pretty well. But in this game I got dominated by a zed. I tried to stay back but, he got a couple kills out of me. Got ganked once by the jungler and once mid jungle because I got caught out by his damage.

He then proceeded to roam. Got fed and I get relentless abuse from my teammates. Omg your cs is so bad. Learn to play man. Report Viktor for feed.

And I'm sat there wondering like... This is a normal game, where exactly am I supposed to go to lean to play if not here? I accept I made mistakes, but constant abuse and getting reported isn't really going to help me play any better is it?

It really does put me off even trying ranked.

SkyWo3 votes

I don't have a problem with bad players, I have a problem with bad players who don't want to improve or put no effort into it and still queue up for ranked. Like, I understand you want to have fun and play new champs and not have to focus much, but you can do that in normal games. When I want to have fun I queue fill in normals and play what I feel, not ranked.

I recently had a fiora go 2/11 to a nasus in a game that almost demoted me, but I still ended up honnoring her because she kept trying and admitting she played badly but also realizing her mistakes and accepting that she had to let the rest of the team carry her.

A couple games later I had a jarvan 'main' go 0/6 in 10 minutes constantly flaming the jungler for not ganking his loosing lane and telling me to shut up when I tried explaining to him it was a bad idea and to play safe. He then told me I was feeding after letting his laner roam to my lane 3 times without a single SS from him. These are the players I can't stand, they don't want to learn from their errors and refuse to accept that their teammates might be right. I try not to flame them, but after trying to point out their mistakes for a while so they don't make them again and only geting insults as a response I sometimes get carried away.

In the end , I know it's mostly useless arguing with this kind of people, but I'd like to think some of them will end up learning from their mistakes...

Optifreak722 votes

There are a lot of great comments in this thread and I agree toxic behavior is stupid and just makes games worse and harder to win.
The point in the opening post that stands out to me is the admit that you don’t care about wins. That you just want to play casually. Then I have to ask why are you playing ranked? Ranked is for people that want to win, that want to compete competitively. Why not play normals? You can do draft normals if you want to secure a certain position. Are you not being toxic yourself by joining a competitive ranked game and not caring?

Also another post mentioned difficulty in CS farming. You can practice CS farming, combos,and new champs in the training area. Of course it’s much easier to farm vs a bit than a real player so getting used to it in normals is the next step.

Wonderloss1 votes

Only time I will actually be toxic is When someone who is going 0/7 starts bitching at me about how im playing when I'm 3/1. I dont do it without provocation. It's stupid but i get it everyone has off games but take the L and stop blaming other people for your mistakes. I didnt join in that 1v4 because I would have died too and that wouldnt have been worth it.

Wonderloss1 votes

{quoted}

Only time I will actually be toxic is When someone who is going 0/7 starts bitching at me about how im playing when I'm 3/1. I dont do it without provocation. It's stupid but i get it everyone has off games but take the L and stop blaming other people for your mistakes. I didnt join in that 1v4 because I would have died too and that wouldnt have been worth it.

Being toxic serves no purpose and I hate it when people are trying to play and are just getting flamed. I played a game with a Yi, he had connection problems and arrived late but was trying to catch up but my team was flaming the fuck out of him for not doing anything, note he died once but everyone else besides me had died over 5 times, I defended him and called them out for being assholes and they say I'm the one being toxic. And im just stunned like how am I the toxic one. I just wanted to help this guy out.

Highvoltage9991 votes

Season 7: I was placed in bronze 3, demoted to bronze 4. Still made it to silver 5 in season 7 Season 8: placed in bronze two. Made it to gold 3 in season 8. Season 9: Placed silver 2, made it to gold in a week.

You can blame your team for your loss, not for your rank. Even at a 65% winrate you will make it out fast.

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