you can no longer vladimir pool garen's q?

give me Vladimir·2/25/2020, 5:07:20 PM·1 votes·2,338 views

i used to be able to pool as soon as garen starts his jumping animation for q, leaving me undamaged and not silenced, now i was playing against a garen and i got absolutely smacked cus he kept q'ing me while i was in pool. i find it a pretty unwinnable matchup now as i cant dodge the dmg using my reaction time...

4 Comments

Jamaree2/25/2020, 5:12:15 PM6 votes

You shoultn't be letting him get in range to Q you in the first place as Vlad.

CyberPhobic2/25/2020, 5:24:23 PM6 votes

'Unwinnable matchup'

Said by Vlad vs Garen lmfao

DeathBurst2/25/2020, 7:51:56 PM2 votes

Yes, there were some fairly technical changes that created, among other things, this behavior. I won't go into details, but the general idea is that his Q is now more like a normal auto and less like a spell.

You can just pool a little earlier, before the Q animation starts. It's not a matter of reaction time, it's a matter of knowing his rotation and when he wants to Q, and pooling at the right time.

(Even with the old behavior, it wasn't consuming the Q proc, Garen could still silence you after you came out of pool.)

IMelchorI2/25/2020, 6:49:16 PM1 votes

your e is a ranged slow. if you keep your distance which vlad does anyway by default and just walk away from him while channeling e when he runs at you with q then you can disengage easy.

also why not pool just before he is in q range then instead? what is the difference here?

"unwinable" lol.