@riot stashu pls make a thread about cassiopeia in this board too

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I really wanna talk about the cassio changes but i dont have a pbe account, its not so important not having a pbe; i dont have time to use pbe to test changes. But i would like to be part of a discussion which can reach to rioters about the changes.

Im gonna write my opinions there stiill..

I get that a rework is needed but i dont like that its limiting her so much. You have to max your e every game to deal damage or farm, you have to build so much mana and ap to deal as much as damage u did before.

you wont deal more damage late game in total because of nerfed aoe late game . you will be dealing single target damage mostly and you still should land your q to do that damage. you have to hit more then 2 times for every q hit to deal more damage to a single target late game.

You are making her ; mana hungry -lower ranged-late game mage . is it good for a low ranged cass to have weaker early game too? How can any cass deal with zed talon fizz kata without pushing and poking hard from range, or how can a cass deal with lux xerath ziggs when they are safely farming poking from miles away.

I dont get what advantage this new cass gonna have. She wont have much damage she wont be as farmed as before. you cant spam much before you get some mana items and will have less kills too, she doesnt have best roaming ability to make up for the loss in lane

I know that ratios are not bad for short cd's but none of them are reliable none of them has range her q is no where near the radius of lux's E . you cant compare an ability's stats with an ability which hits every minion in the vawe. You can hit 3 minions at most with cass' q. I have to hit 2 or more times to make the same damage to minions

Maybe because im silver player but i dont think im using my e as much as my q and w at late game team fights. i dont wanna be in trists auto range to deal less damage then him.

i can play trist or kogmaw as ad carrys in mid lane to do the thing you want new cass to do with better sustain and better range

Some ideas i have:

  1. give her q's damage back, you can totally disable the damage part of miasma. Make it her cc ability maybe only a poisoned slow like singed's slow or keep the new ratios but dont remove the old passive, give her an edge to do something early.

2)You can also give E an "in fight 1 cd passive".(like graves passive) so make it mor reliable or something like " your e will have 0.5 s cd for 3 sec after you cast any other ability "

  1. if im gonna deal single targeted damage with cass, give her some dash, invisibiliity, or something that helps you to do that damage( i would love to see something like twitch's q)

If i summarize; i know this cass has not the best play style but she doesnt have an absurd win rate. You are just nerfing the things that keeps her from getting deleted from map . But she is not getting any healthier or viable play back. And pls let the people outside from pbe to discuss about rework

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YouLostMe (NA) - about 12 hours ago AoE Damage:OK, so people want the math on this.

DPS: 2 targets hit with Q and W and R Old Cass: 2061 New Cass: 2185

DPS: 3 targets hit with Q and W and R Old Cass: 2453 New Cass: 2484

DPS: 4 targets hit with Q and W and R Old Cass: 2844 New Cass: 2783

DPS: 5 targets hit with Q and W and R Old Cass: 3235 New Cass: 3082

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay/tJtrQMms-cassiopeia-rework-the-hard-numbers-and-why-its-not-for-the-best?comment=000400010000

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