Ap Shaco Vs Kennen top frustration.

Messagner3·Dec 4, 2016·1 votes·2,593 views

Like legit frustrated that I lost an Ap shaco top. Dude took exhaust and kept Qing me then going Invisible. I legit don' get how the guy was going full AP yet his Q was chucking me non stop. Everything I went in, he would lure me into a box trap, go clone & Exhaust me. Also who came up with the ideal to give clones the items and buffs then expect me into a 1 v1 duel, in a close dps race to click on which clone doesnt have stacks?

Legit frustrated on what I could of done.

11 Comments

Neko CaitlynDec 4, 20164 votes

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Everything I went in, he would lure me into a box trap, go clone & Exhaust me.

Then stop going in?

If you know theres boxes and exhaust and clone why go in?

Leo1024Dec 4, 20162 votes

just focus on farming if it's a hard matchup, if you die even once, don't try to all in if they have over half their health, even if you're at full hp, just farm and get fed later, it almost always works

I had an Orianna game and Ryze was getting me camped, after dying once to the jungle, i didn't force plays and focused on cs and only cs, at 19 minutes i finally got a kill but my cs was way higher than Ryze's, that cs gold advantage helped me go from 1/1/0 at 20 minutes to 11/2/6 when the game ended, you just gotta play smart

ff4skDec 4, 20162 votes

Control ward reveal his boxes and so does your free red trinket.

If you're losing to shaco top as kennen then maybe you're just bad.

Messagner3Dec 20, 20161 votes

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Control ward reveal his boxes and so does your free red trinket.

If you're losing to shaco top as kennen then maybe you're just bad.

go suck a dick.

EndlessSorcererDec 4, 20161 votes

I legit don' get how the guy was going full AP yet his Q was chucking me non stop

Shaco's Q, W, E and R have AP scaling damage.

Q has a 50% AP ratio while E has a 90% AP ratio.

Just rush Abyssal Scepter if need be and wait for teamfights where you will be massively more useful.

RequiemsfireDec 4, 20161 votes

Shaco's pretty good at beating aggressive champions and now that he scales into the mid-late better than before he actually makes a pretty solid laner. You have to respect the Shaco and his zone, if you see him going into a bush, don't follow, don't attack him if he walks up to you because it could the clone, get a trinket and if he uses his invisibility skill retreat for a second as there might be a gank underway.

A good shaco will never fight you without boxes behind him in lane ;)

Urf Mode Is LifeDec 4, 20161 votes

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Shaco's pretty good at beating aggressive champions and now that he scales into the mid-late better than before he actually makes a pretty solid laner. You have to respect the Shaco and his zone, if you see him going into a bush, don't follow, don't attack him if he walks up to you because it could the clone, get a trinket and if he uses his invisibility skill retreat for a second as there might be a gank underway.

A good shaco will never fight you without boxes behind him in lane ;)

if you think new shaco scales better, you are DISGUSTINGLY WRONG as a shaco main thats literally all i will say there

RequiemsfireDec 4, 20161 votes

Been watching a Shaco main called Pink ward who's currently diamond 1 for the past few days, he's been doing pretty well so far with AP Shaco builds.

Anyhow, surely as a Shaco main you could give a proper reason then as to why his win rate climbed to 52% since patch 6.22 if it was a nerf.

Shac NorrisDec 4, 20161 votes

Get free red trinket

Disable all of his traps for 10 seconds all around you

???

Profit.

BardfulDec 5, 20161 votes

His q scales with ap now. Also don't all in as kennen, poke him back instead. Finally, you are more impactful late game so, expect not to be stronger than a shaco top. If Shaco has his ult don't duel him. When it is down (as long as you weren't losing lane) he will only beat you if you run into his boxes so get red trinket. I don't play top often but, I play Shaco a nice bit. All I know is Kennen is scary when he leaves top lane. A champ with so much impact mid and late game and is more aoe should not be able to all in their laning partner who is designed to take down one target. As for his q poke, you have a q poke too and your e. Shaco's q is on a long cool down after use punish him when it is down he will have no escapes.

BardfulDec 5, 20161 votes

Also shaco does have a nice impact later in the game but, I really couldn't compare it to Kennen's. The time his q lasts makes me personally feel Shaco has better initiation now since he can pop his clone near people and have them believe it is you while you back away and cause them to burn a lot of their moves. But, Kennen's flash, protobelt, ult is pretty crazy.