Autofill delay

The S1ash··1 votes·786 views

Autofill. General enemy of all one-tricks. As it has been said many times being a one-trick is not a bad thing. Yet when we are faces with autofill even people who are not one-tricks themselves get upset.

Why is that? Because if you get autofilled you do not get the chance to play the champion you want nor the lane from where you are able to carry the game.

"Disable autofill then" Not so simple. The waiting times for mid-lane, top-lane and adc would get excessive and unbearable.

"Ok, give us option to enable/disable autofill if we do not feel like waiting" The same issue as before. Because most people play league only when not in a hurry and so the waiting times would not change at all for anyone compared to former comment.

"What are you suggesting then?" Give us option to say how long do you want to wait before the autofill queue starts. This will allow for shorter waiting queues as well as for people to choose how long they want to wait (+ max 2 minutes on a bad day).

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ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Give us option to say how long do you want to wait before the autofill queue starts. This will allow for shorter waiting queues as well as for people to choose how long they want to wait (+ max 2 minutes on a bad day).

That's functional the same as just turning it off or letting people individually turn it off; It doesn't work. You aren't the only one waiting. If a game needs another support to start, but you set it to wait 5 minutes before autofilling, then that's 5 minutes added to the queue of the other 9 players as well.

The S1ash1 votes

Yes, but if I was in autofill ALREADY the 9 wouldn't be waiting for nothing. How many people do you think are searching for a game at any moment? ARE YOU ACTUALLY THINKING THAT AT ONE ANY GIVEN POINT IN TIME THERE IS 10 PEOPLE PER REGION? Just go to twitch and find 20 small streamers from NA to break this sadly stupid worldview.

We can't turn it off because then nobody would be on autofill and nobody would fill unwanted roles. But if someone says: "I'll wait 5 minutes, then autofill me" and then you join his 5 minutes into queue suddenly there is a well fitted lobby.

Unless I misunderstood what you were trying to say, that was the least thought-through comment I have read in months.

The S1ash1 votes

Ban me. If it makes you feel better

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

The simple fact that autofill exists means that at any one point in time, there is a game that does not have 10 players within MMR ranges that fulfill all 10 positions on the map.

Look at it like jars with marbles: there are 5 jars, each with their own kind of marble, and each with an uneven number. You need two of each kind to have a complete game. It takes 35 minutes for a marble to return back to the jar to be used again. You start parting out marbles, 2 of each kind, until you run out of ones for the support position. You still have enough for all the rest though. Now, if you wait for a dedicated support marble to return back to the jar, it will take 35 minutes. Or, you could just take a marble from another jar and use that to fill the game. This means that you no longer have to wait that 35 minutes to get a marble back, and that as long as you have marbles in the other jars, you can keep making games.

Now consider that you have to wait 5 minutes before you can grab certain marbles. Either you have to wait that 5 minutes to grab that one, or you take another one. This means that the chances for all the other marbles to get filled into another position has gone up drastically.

Now replace all the marbles with people. Anytime someone decides to add a "wait time" before they get filled, your chance to be filled goes up drastically. Because no one like to be filled, they also add a timer to wait, except now theirs is 10 minutes. Now all the people that were 5 minutes also increase theirs, because their chance has gone up. This arms race of waiting keeps going until you just have your 35 minute wait time again.

Adding any kind of choice, wait time, or any other limiter to autofill just does not work. It goes against the entire point of the system. Yes, it can suck not getting to play your desired role, but the simple fact is that if you made any of these change like what is seen in this post (or the dozens of others that have similar suggestions or requests that are seen on the boards), it will get much, much worse.

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