Can there be such a thing as an ap marksman?

Terabyte Marine·10/11/2016, 9:28:44 PM·1 votes·2,183 views

I used to play a whole lot of ap attack speed tf mid when ionic spark/malady was around. Sure it might have been broken or unbalanced at the time, but I thoroughly enjoyed that style of play. Ever since those items were removed, I've been kind of looking for something similar to play and the closest I ended up coming to enjoy was more along the lines of ap/ad casters such as Jayce Lux Xerath Viktor Fizz Fiora (old fiora unfortunately) and Katarina (though i hate to admit that). They were some of the greatest champs I enjoyed because it required pressing keys in the correct order to pull off a combo as fast as possible. When Azir came out I was like "Cool, a champ that I might be able to play as an marksman." From that point forward I tried to make a build around the fact that he's an ap marksman, but unfortunately due to the removal of all the ap attack speed items and pushing all of it onto one or two items, there wasn't really any good build I could use so I ended up with something along the lines of item 3006 item 3085 item 3115 item 3089 item 3116 and Will of the Ancients or item 3146 to round that out. It got the job done, but sadly it doesn't maximize any of Azir's kit (right now at least, since the cdr = attack speed was removed).

Ultimately the question I'm trying to ask is: Can there be a champ that exists that could be considered an ap Marksman? And if so, would you guys at Riot consider item optimization for such champs? If you need an example of champs who could be AP Marksman here's a short list: Mordekaiser Azir TwistedFate Teemo KogMaw Corki Kennen Kayle

22 Comments

Sm0k3McCl0ud10/11/2016, 9:34:26 PM3 votes

Ziggs

Teh Song10/11/2016, 9:37:34 PM1 votes

Tristana before rework often built AP.

I actually still build her hybrid AP/AD, because I liked AP Trist too much to accept their attempt to make it less of a thing.

In any case, every role should have AD, AP, and Hybrid options.

ExHentai10/11/2016, 9:44:06 PM1 votes

There already are AP marksmen. Teemo's primary role is marksman. Azir and Kennen's secondary roles are marksman.

SP Dodgecity10/11/2016, 9:47:24 PM1 votes

Dude XD Corki is an AP marksmen. His damage is primarily mixed between AD and AP, You build hybrid with him, and azir and teemo are both already basic attack focused APC's

venomous frost10/11/2016, 9:58:50 PM1 votes

is everyone seriously forgetting Kayle

also Cassiopeia is pretty much a machine gun marksman, but with spells

Anonagon10/11/2016, 10:02:56 PM1 votes

SMITE has proven that magic damage ADCs can work within the systems that League has. The way to make it work is to a) have their basic attacks scale innately with AP at all times, and b) give them ways to circumvent the lack of good AP/AS itemization

DarkRitual10/11/2016, 10:03:10 PM1 votes

Kennen Teemo

MrIASA11/23/2017, 5:32:58 PM1 votes

I have a question; are these AP Marksmen going to be more reliant on basic attacks like AD Marksmen, or are they more centred around their abilities?

Also, great idea. AP Marksmen should be a thing.

Thanks!

Its All Skillzz11/23/2017, 5:36:14 PM1 votes

Ezreal i havnt tried it much but it was decently effective in the games i played it item 3115 item 3100 item 3089 item 3146 item 3124 item 3006 Problem is the cost is outrageous.

Nick Da Chip11/30/2017, 2:32:24 PM1 votes

Varus' can be built as an AP marksman.