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I Have win 106 games in ranked and im still broze 5

Morfeas··5 votes·1,541 views

I have lose so many ranked games because the other players are feeding intentionally or going afk .How i will be promoted to the next divison this way ?

27 Comments

yougotCAGED2 votes

Very, very few players feed intentionally. When you have this mindset, you're probably tilted beyond belief and that's not going to help you climb.

Just because someone goes 2-10 doesn't mean they intentionally fed.

Bhagswag1 votes

Exactly. An average support in the lower elo can easily die by accident as compared to plat or something. 2/10 on a support is acceptable in my opinion, as long as they have more assists.

vOmvbrawfU1 votes

If you're 0-3 and all in the enemy, that is feeding intentionally. There is no way anyone with the functioning capacity to play a computer game doesn't know that they will die.

yougotCAGED1 votes

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If you're 0-3 and all in the enemy, that is feeding intentionally. There is no way anyone with the functioning capacity to play a computer game doesn't know that they will die.

Except it's not always true. Sometimes you can win those fights. ;)

FioraWillCarry2 votes

Dude it took me over 1000 ranked games to climb from Bronze 5 last season to Silver 5. 100 games is not nearly enough ranked games to be thinking about climbing. But if you're talking about simply climbing from B5 to B4, that should take any competent player something like 15 games. You're gonna lose a lot of those due to excessive feeding but you will win enough to climb.

Morfeas1 votes

I was b3 and i lost 6 ranked games in a row because my team intentionally leaving the game , i think it's just luck that gets you higher elo.

LaughingStapler2 votes

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I was b3 and i lost 6 ranked games in a row because my team intentionally leaving the game , i think it's just luck that gets you higher elo.

It's actually hilarious if you believe this. You see streamers start new accounts all the time and breeze through every ELO up to Diamond with ~70% winrates. It is not about luck if you have more than 100 games and haven't climbed.

Jústic2 votes

Yea but those are already high elo streamers that are almost pros at the game, this means its easy for them to carry because of the higher skill compared to their team, so if I have to have diamond master or challenger skill to climb, you just proved yourself this games system for ranked is fucked

B00B002 votes

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Yea but those are already high elo streamers that are almost pros at the game, this means its easy for them to carry because of the higher skill compared to their team, so if I have to have diamond master or challenger skill to climb, you just proved yourself this games system for ranked is fucked

so you have said

''if players are better and higher skilled they climb''

then

''ranking system is fucked because they are more skilled and can climb''

you know how idiotic that sounds? its like saying Usain bolt only wins because he's faster than his competition....well of course he bloody is.

Jústic1 votes

Okay let me fucking put it in idiotic terms for you, if i deserve silver, im stuck in beinze because i cant hard carry afk feeders and shit like that, if i have to dumb it down from that your just a complete idiot, and im done with this convo because i know im right youre just to idiotic to understand

Spicy Rice1 votes

You only need a 55% winrate to climb. If you can't get that, you aren't skilled enough to be higher in the first place

Mysticman891 votes

A 50.00000...1 winrate is technically sufficient to climb, it'd just take a lot more games. Your mmr would sllooooowwwly creep upwards, resulting in slightly more LP for wins and less LP losses when you lose, and so slowly trending upwards.

Peoples notions of what rank they 'deserve' is usually fairly disconnected from reality. If you play a 100ish games in many cases people will be pretty close to where they belong, unless they've managed like 55%+ or 45%- winrates in which case they're not done climbing/falling. After 1k or so games, you are almost certainly at the rank you deserve, and if that's not in line with your expectations, then it's your expectations that are out of line.

Basically if you feel you deserve silver (or any other rank), keep playing. You'll get there eventually if you deserve it.

Morfeas1 votes

Dude i totally agree with you , today i have lose another 2 game for afking .. im done with this sh*** I'm gonna uninstall this game!

Mizuki Zahra1 votes

I agree I have had a game in bronze where the end score was 58 to 5 and only the nidalee on out team had kills. she snowballed and carried then apologized because she was a diamond player who got hacked and wanted to make a new account.

this person just couldn't be stopped last year and they were in my friends list it took them 3 months to get back to diamond so it is possible.

JRobin311 votes

The climb can be long and slow, but if you let the performance of your teammates dictate how you feel, then you won't climb as quickly. Essentially, you have to stop caring about AFKs and teammates that feed the enemy.

Every moment you spend being aggravated about teammates that do poorly is a waste of time.

Let me put this another way: You know already that most of your games are out of your control. You aren't a Diamond player and maybe if you are good enough, you can eek out a 55% win rate. You know that for 70-80% of the games you play, your actions in game don't matter. Even if you finish with a good score, it mostly means someone else on your team carried even harder than you did.

So.. what this means is that you have to stop caring about whether you win or lose and you have to stop caring about how many games it takes to get to the next division. You have to stop caring what other players think of your play. You have to stop caring about whether or not you get an S as well, because it actually doesn't mean that much.

The only thing that matters is improving faster than other players are improving. If win a game and can't identify any mistakes that you made, then you are not improving: that win you just got was a waste of your time. You just wasted 30 minutes of time playing the game and not getting better. If you lose a game and can't think of any mistakes you made, then you just wasted 30 minutes of time playing the game and not getting better. It's okay to look at a game and see how you lost the game because of your teammates, but if you spend additional time blaming them for their mistakes, then you are spending time not improving your own game. When your teammates clearly lost the game and there was absolutely nothing you could do to prevent that outcome, the game was only a waste of time if you personally failed to improve your own game.

If you actually identify at least three things you did well each game and three things you did poorly each game regardless of the outcome (win or lose) and regardless of the performance of teammates (AFKs/feeders or hard carry smurfs), then you will be on the path to climbing faster.

TL;DR Because yes, you might actually be better than other players at your current rank (and deserve Silver) and even so it could take you 1000 games to climb to Silver...! So the issue isn't whether or not you are climbing... the issue is how fast (or slow) you are climbing. And the only reliable way to climb faster is to improve faster - attachment to the thrill of winning, the disappointment of loss, or the achievement of particular ranks is a waste of time that leads you to blame teammates (yes, they may deserve blame; no, it doesn't matter).

watch the bush1 votes

Exactly. Your point being, what? They're good, right? Exactly.

So if you deserve something higher than your elo, then you'll be able to climb too. If your skill matches the team mates in your elo, then that's where you belong.

LaughingStapler1 votes

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Yea but those are already high elo streamers that are almost pros at the game, this means its easy for them to carry because of the higher skill compared to their team, so if I have to have diamond master or challenger skill to climb, you just proved yourself this games system for ranked is fucked

Those are just clear refutations of the concept but you definitely don't need that to get out of Bronze lol. That's actually extremely simple. I'm usually high Gold when playing my main champions and I got placed in Bronze on a new account this season. Within a week, I was Gold 2.

BIackfox1 votes

Dw I was on my way to getting into my first ever gold promos and I had the worst top laner in history. A poppy that lost to a soraka

ThePikol1 votes

I just had Rene that lost to Ali on top because "he has so much CC!"

Kukan Seishin1 votes

Soraka top is op : ^)

BIackfox1 votes

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Soraka top is op : ^)

Yeah maybe in wood 7

Kukan Seishin1 votes

..................... did you really not get my sarcasm there?

Mysticman891 votes

As long as you can avoid feeding or afking yourself, then you'll statistically trend upwards since theres 5 potential DCs/AFKs on the other team but only 4 on yours, so you don't even need to be good or try to hard carry to climb in that elo, you just need to survive and play enough.

A common issue with people in that elo is that they all feel like they have to hard carry, which usually results in them feeding (resulting in them not statistically climbing for feeder/dc related reasons) and then blaming teammates (resulting in them not actually getting better).

Snowman Arc1 votes

Bronze 5 is easily carriable, even with trolls and AFKs. I recently played some games on a B5 smurf and I had feeders in all my lanes, yet still won most of those games.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

You just have to improve and not think about the AFKers or trolls once you improve you will get higher. Most players leave because they suck so you have to play early champions to get leads and just snowball the lead so the AFK players won't have a reason to leave if they know the game is in the bag.

You might also be running wrong runes that have no business on/in certain champions or cases. Same thing with Champions also.

Overall quit if you want no one will stop you nor care but you were Silver last season just keep working and improve and not think/rely/or help your teammates but yourself and you will get out.

TheTrueQuarian3 votes

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You just have to improve and not think about the AFKers or trolls once you improve you will get higher.

Yeah Just do what everyone else does. If you cover your ears and yell really loud with your eyes closed you can magically climb...

III BAKURYU III 2 votes

That actually worked back in 2014

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