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Balance in the league system, your just messing with me right?

FitzyFitzgerald··5 votes·987 views

know a lot of people must complain about the league system still but really. it seems like you guys are out to get me... attached is an image of my most recent game. might just look like a bad game, but if you do a little investigation you will see just why i might be upset. if you search the enemy summoner names, and the ally summoner names you will see a large discrepancy. everyone on the other team has 100+ ranked wins, in fact all but 1 i believe has 200+ ranked wins. i have 45 ranked wins, which is fine i figure because maybe they will match me with people who have high wins to compensate. however its the opposite. 3 people on my team, have LESS than 10 ranked wins. in fact the numbers are 2 wins, 3 wins, and 7 wins. how can this matchmaking system be fair if people with less than 10 ranked wins will be queued up with people who have 200+ ranked wins, because they are the same league? the league system needs to be looked at long and hard if people with 200 wins are seen as equal as people with 2, obviously the people with 200 wins to be in silver must have around 200 losses as well. which gives them a massive advantage because they have the experience of 400+ ranked games where as the people on my team haven't played more than 20 ranked games this season. please can you help this situation, because getting teams like this upsets me enough to not want to play this game because i cant get out of a league due to flaws the matchmaking system.

10 Comments

NoDomeAtHome3 votes

Just posted a fairly similar post about the flawed system but with much more detail. They need to change it for solo queue. Pre-made it works, not solo.

Narasimha1 votes

Your logic is a bit off. Just because a person HAS experience, doesn't mean it translates to game skill. Speaking personally, I have a LOT of ranked games under my belt, and I'm still in Silv I (climbing though!). There has been plenty of times when I've lost to people who haven't even hit 50 matches. Do I know more about League than them? Most likely. Does that make me better than them automatically? No. Look at it this way. Those people are in the same elo as you, after playing so many games. Thats more on them than you.

FitzyFitzgerald1 votes

if everything is still based on elo why not go back to the elo system? why mask it? i was climbing at great heights at the end of season 2, only to be changed into the league system and held down in the beginning of season 3. and your statement that my logic is off because players who don't have as many games under their belt can be better, explain how that makes sense with the outcome of the game that i played in the picture? it doesn't. it directly contradicts what you said. so why say it cause it is wrong and the proof is in the game outcome. Also to add to my point i just figured out that one of the players on my team was still in his provisional matches. and it was his second ranked game this season. how can he be matched against players who have 400+ ranked games played?

Narasimha1 votes

Are you.. are you actually trying to cite one game as evidence for your whole theory? Hell, I think even 6th graders know, one example means nothing. It only becomes valid after trial after trial after trial. Show me 10 such games, and then you'll have a foundation to go off of.

FitzyFitzgerald1 votes

this is the first game when i noticed the obvious discrepancy in the matchup. which should never happen

Rikari1 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1622776563/213342938 I have 372 Ranked Wins,worked my ass off to climb from b5 a tier higher into silver,but im paired with.. 6 11 4 and finally 36 ranked wins,

Paired Against: 204 198 428 176 212 wins.

I think this is quite evident in their KDA's and their mentality when looking at the game time. I haven't even seen BOTS lose this bad. If they just hit 30 pair them up with other kids that just hit 30. I don't mind losing,i don't want it,but i don't want an endlessly fed enemy team with 4 super minions beside me. seems like riot doesn't want me to win as with these teams i win 11 and lose 24 LP. kind of sad how one loss sends my MMR on a downhill snowball,because I KNOW I'm better than half the kids in silver.

FitzyFitzgerald1 votes

thank you for more evidence in proving my case!

Rikari1 votes

np i was gonna make one like this soon~~,btw i cant see your image uploaded~~.

Hellioning1 votes

MMR and ranked wins aren't particularly related. The matchmaker decided to focus on MMR instead of ranked wins, because if they focused on ranked wins, you'd have bad games that take a while. And most people would rather have quicker games than perfectly even matchups all the time.

NoMonku1 votes

What you aren't taking away is the fact that you have less wins over them, in THEORY means you are potentially better then them. The fact that you are queuing up with them with so little wins means your MMR is roughly the same, so the system is working the way it is designed to match you up against players of a "similar" level, basing it off of your rating. I mean, I'm beating people who have hundreds of wins in gold, but you don't see me complaining about it. It just means I'm "better" then them since I was able to pull off a win. If you want to play against people who have "similar" wins, the only time you will EVER be able to get this to happen, is most likely at the very beginning after the RESET of a season, as everyone will be at 0 games played.

Also, this might be offensive to you, but I will say it anyways. I feel in a lot of cases if you are able to easily get beaten by veterans of a certain tier/division and it happens repeatedly, you probably BELONG there. If you actually ARE better then them, carry yourself out of your problem with your own power and stop complaining about it. The fact that you're up against them despite having not even a fraction of their wins or total games played, means you have the potential to go up higher then them, since it took you LESS games to get to WHERE they are. So just play and do your best.

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